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    • CommentAuthorjules
    • CommentTimeMar 12th 2010
     
    The other consideration re wind problems is the location of the external inlet and outlet of the unit. The HR25 for instance pokes out of the external wall, and the outlet faces down, which one imagines would reduce the risk of wind blowing straight in. The inlet is on one side: the end facing out from the wall is blank.
    • CommentAuthorarthur
    • CommentTimeMar 13th 2010
     
    Gotanewlife, you want a non-HR far running constantly? Isn't this a rather reckless throwing away of heat, after all we read on these pages about the importance of airtightness?
    You say your wood is cheap but that's not really the point is it? It's still carbon, regardless of the price.
    If there really are issues with the effectiveness of the heat recovery fans then i can see that the money seems like a waste but I find the idea of using more energy (albeit not much) to pump out heat rather difficult to accept.
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      CommentAuthorali.gill
    • CommentTimeMar 14th 2010 edited
     
    For an extra £20 you can get a 1kw thru wall hr system from these guys
    http://www.dry-it-out.com/HR100W
    but doesnt look like you get to use your core drill for this one!!

    switch is cheaper from here though..less than half the price quoted from supplier above
    http://www.i-sells.co.uk/2-speed-manual-trickle-boost-selector-switch
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    Ali.G - nice try (and I am very grateful!) but I want the automatic humidity control (they say it is possible but they don't seem to sell the part), and I don't like the sound of the "one shot" overload protection, 40 deg is a real possibility here. Most worryingly though, they sell the HR25H at a much higher price than others, the manual boost switch is double what it should be and so it could be one of those 'if it seems to good to be true.....' situations. And a core drill is soooo much fun!

    Arthur - last I looked burning wood from renewable sources was carbon neutral; no, what IS "reckless" is opening all my windows everyday when the external humidity is less than 60% or putting the dehumidifers on if not, which is what I am and what I have to do at the moment. With 300m2 or so (once upstairs becomes liveable), solutions need to be cost effective. Of course I could have saved so much money by not installing a wood burner and TS in the first place? I am happy with my choices, solar panels, PV making about as much as I use pa, wood for heat: I guess you will accept that.

    Sorry Sam - I am in danger of hijacking your thread here.
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      CommentAuthorali.gill
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    Gnl - I wonder if the cheaper price is due to the 70% heat recovery maybe not fulfilling requirements for csh or passivhaus leading to less demand.
    the one shot fuses look like pcb fixed units rather than easily replaceable units, that can be resettable or non-resettable.
    looks like the hr25h doesnt come with a protective device as standard according to the rext in the section 'Motor'
    happy and safe drilling, dont forget the ppe
    • CommentAuthorarthur
    • CommentTimeMar 15th 2010
     
    Gnl, whether or not wood is really carbon neutral (lets not get in to those endless debates here) my point is that burning more than necessary just because it's cheap is still wrong.. Someone else could be burning it more usefully, or the wood could be staying unburnt (and be a carbon sink rather than carbon neutral). Americans could say their petrol is cheap so why not waste it (as they do).

    I don't understand the argument about 300m2.

    I still can't accept that it's worth spending all that money on solar pv etc and then using a fan to blow heat out of the building. Everything we read on here seems to suggest that airtightness is far more cost-effective and energy-saving-effective measures but, if you have tackled airtightness that seems to me undermined by ventilating in this way.

    I don't mean this to seem like a personal attack, I'm just intersted in understanding this issue
  2.  
    Hi,

    I'm about to buy an MVHR unit (gonna go for the HR25). I've written up my research on EnviroWiki (including a table of the various MVHR units on the market at the moment):

    http://envirowiki.org.uk/wiki/Mechanical_Ventilation_with_Heat_Recovery

    Please feel free to dive in and edit, I'm sure it's far from perfect
    • CommentAuthorPeter Clark
    • CommentTimeAug 24th 2010 edited
     
    My problem with these devices, apart from cost, is that they are mostly designed to operate continuously and therefore do not have a shutter. So if you switch it off, because too noisy at night, there will be a draught coming in.

    This one has a shutter:

    Silavent Energex Heat Recovery Fan

    http://www.silavent.co.uk/products/heat_recovery/energex-features.asp


    In Dan’s comparison it is more powerful, therefore more effective? But noisier?

    Has anyone any experience of using the Silavex?

    Peter
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