Tue, 19 Dec 2023 07:59:52 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246959#Comment_246959 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246959#Comment_246959 Mon, 12 Sep 2016 17:54:40 +0100 renewablejohn
Talking to bespoke UK joiners and you mention outward opening swedish doors and they think your from another planet.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246962#Comment_246962 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246962#Comment_246962 Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:19:39 +0100 owlman Most of the doors on my house are outward opening albeit not double rebate which is often common on the Continent.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246963#Comment_246963 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246963#Comment_246963 Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:23:11 +0100 djh Posted By: renewablejohnthey do not supply outward opening doors to the UK market
That really winds me up. My pet hate is Philips who make various colour temperature LED lamps but only sell warm white ones in this country.

The doors in my house are normally supplied outward opening, and I have two such, but the front door is inward opening. The only difference I can see is an extra outer seal on the inward opening one, mounted to the frame rather than the door. My doors are softwood though so won't be what you want, but my point is that engineering outward opening ones seems to be easier.

I'd guess that the main use of outward opening oak (i.e. high-quality) doors in this country is as fire exits in commercial premises. Might be worth investigating. Sorry, that's all I can think of.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246964#Comment_246964 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246964#Comment_246964 Mon, 12 Sep 2016 18:44:50 +0100 renewablejohn Posted By: owlmanAny joinery firm worth their salt should be able to manufacture insulated double rebated doors. Projection hinges, espagnolette locking systems, sheet insulation, engineered timber etc. are all readily available. What aspect of "Swedish Style" are you having difficulty with?
Most of the doors on my house are outward opening albeit not double rebate which is often common on the Continent.

You would have thought its not rocket science. Have now tried 7 "reputable" joiners who have strung me along with quotes and promised delivery schedules only to find out they had not even started the doors in one case after 6 months as being "to busy".]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246970#Comment_246970 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246970#Comment_246970 Mon, 12 Sep 2016 20:03:51 +0100 owlman You'll obviously need the door and frame and you could easily design a hybrid with standard square edges top and hinge side and a double rebate on the leading edge. The bottom would depend on what sort of cill detail you want,- lots of options there.
If you go for an extra thick insulated door the leading edge double rebate is actually a great advantage as you don't have to have such a severe leading taper to the door edge, a good joinery firm will know that. You can also build in the multipoint locking system into the middle flat bit. Single rebate works OK too.
Whereabouts are you?]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246976#Comment_246976 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246976#Comment_246976 Mon, 12 Sep 2016 21:55:24 +0100 woodcutter http://www.rationel.co.uk]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246988#Comment_246988 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=246988#Comment_246988 Tue, 13 Sep 2016 13:45:08 +0100 Chris P Bacon
I actually just moved to a new job here in Sweden manufacturing doors but I am afraid I can't help with Oak as we only do specialist doors in glass fibre....

You could try with manufacturers in some of the other Baltic countries such as Latvia or Lithuania that supply to the UK as many would also supply to the Swedish market.

If I can help from my end whisper me a message.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=247037#Comment_247037 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=247037#Comment_247037 Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:36:37 +0100 renewablejohn Posted By: woodcutterAlthough they are not Oak (pre-painted soft wood) I can recommend Rationel doors and windows (they are Danish). Outward opening with good security and pretty unique locking system that allows the door to be held open in any position.
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Unfortunately being listed it has to be oak. It took 4 1/2 years to get LBC so not really up for asking for a variation.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=247039#Comment_247039 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=247039#Comment_247039 Wed, 14 Sep 2016 15:56:45 +0100 owlman http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=247058#Comment_247058 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14530&Focus=247058#Comment_247058 Wed, 14 Sep 2016 22:09:27 +0100 muddy