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    • CommentAuthorMikeRumney
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    Has anyone come across those formed plastic-of-some-type trays that you can put in valleys where the slates from each side will butt up to those on the other side (so no plastic /lead showing) ...?
    Any issues with this product? (eg type of plastics used, design quality ...)
    Any issues with this design (eg prone to blocking?)
    All comments very much appreciated :smile:
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    Amazing! I woke up this morning with exact same question.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    Quite often got asked to GRP valleys. These were usually existing ones that had started leaking. Easy enough to make your own if you know exactly what you want.
    • CommentAuthorRobinB
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    how bad would lead be?
    • CommentAuthorchuckey
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    I have a "sanded" interlocking concrete tile roof, now about 30 years old. The moss growth on the north facing slopes has been incredible and is adhering to absolutely every thing. If I had a valley, as described by you, I would have a series of little dams all the way down the slope with the tiles themselves leaking. I would always go for wide valleys which are easier to keep clean. Not sure about plastic, it expands and contracts a lot with temperature and perhaps, degrades with the UV. has any one seen any 60 years old plastic rainwater goods?
    Frank
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    Posted By: chuckeyhas any one seen any 60 years old plastic rainwater goods?


    Yes, there are a few GRP boats/cars.building cladding of that age, though the formulation of the resins has changed (more environmentally friendly but less durable). One advantage of GRP is that is can be made as one continuous run, no joints. The big disadvantage is that if it is layed up on site then whatever it is going to be adhered to must be dry and working in full sunlight can be tricky too.
    • CommentAuthorMikeRumney
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    Thank you all, so far ....

    Posted By: RobinBhow bad would lead be?


    it's a cost thing ... material, and labour/time ... and the look of it (Had a pic but having problems uploading it)

    Posted By: chuckeyI have a "sanded" interlocking concrete tile roof, now about 30 years old. The moss growth on the north facing slopes has been incredible and is adhering to absolutely every thing. If I had a valley, as described by you, I would have a series of little dams all the way down the slope with the tiles themselves leaking. I would always go for wide valleys which are easier to keep clean. Not sure about plastic, it expands and contracts a lot with temperature and perhaps, degrades with the UV. has any one seen any 60 years old plastic rainwater goods?
    Frank


    The plastic would be protected from UV by the overlying slate ... which is "flatter" than interlockers so I'm not sure if the same mini-dam effect would apply (?)
    It's supposed to be easier to keep clean as the tiles will be cut to fit, but maybe there is bound to be a kind of silt build up over the years, under the slates which would have to be jetted through from the top maybe ??

    Posted By: fostertomAmazing! I woke up this morning with exact same question.


    That's the third time now! are we separated twins? When's your birthday?!

    Posted By: SteamyTeaQuite often got asked to GRP valleys. These were usually existing ones that had started leaking. Easy enough to make your own if you know exactly what you want.


    Do you mean GRP were leaking?
    Make my own with plakky or did you mean lead, like RobinB?

    Keep em coming!
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    No, the original valleys were leaking, chippie made a new valley from ply and then I would sheath it in GRP. Or I would create a reversal and mould a section to be fitted on site by the roofer. Not a cheap option but will outlast you and your twin Tom :bigsmile:
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2011
     
    How about galv steel (industrial guttering) or zinc etc as alternative to lead, esp if protected from the elements by close-mitred tiling?
    • CommentAuthorMikeRumney
    • CommentTimeApr 30th 2011
     
    Posted By: fostertomHow about galv steel (industrial guttering) or zinc etc as alternative to lead, esp if protected from the elements by close-mitred tiling?


    actually I've just picked up some industrial guttering from a local "Freecycler" ... supposed to end up as a long rainwater flush tank hidden in the roof overhang ... It might be workable enough to put in this valley instead ... we ARE twins otherwise how did you know I had it here ??
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