https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ppD_bhWODDc


I pray that it could lead to an early ceasefire

apologies for posting twice I thought in the past I could edit

What's the TL;DR?

What's the TL;DR? sorry can you be more specific djh


It is the recording of a Zoom meeting made on the 2nd March 2022. the first 3.5 minutes is best skipped as have little relevance

I think the knowledge you will gain from the experience will not be found in the daily mail or any other publication.

That's why it's v helpful, if I 'lazily' ask for it, to be given a summary, or the relevant bit, of some scientific paper that someone (who's comfortable with that lingo) has quoted or linked to - rather than being told to read it myself. It's kind to do so, and adds to nett human understanding.

Posted By: fostertomThat's why it's v helpful, if I 'lazily' ask for it, to be given a summary, or the relevant bit, of some scientific paper that someone (who's comfortable with that lingo) has quoted or linked to - rather than being told to read it myself. It's kind to do so, and adds to nett human understanding.

Mostly those sort of documents have a section at the beginning called 'Abstract' that summarises it.

Posted By: owlmanWhat's the TL;DR?

Too Long; Didn't Read

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Emil V.

Good to know there are still people in this world who have the guts to cover this situation without falling to emotion...




rafiolak
2 days ago
That was a great lecture. We lack this kind of realism and culture of discussion in PL.




Yelena Angeleski


I sorely miss the always sane, courageous and fair voice of Prof. Stephen F. Cohen, who died last year. He was America's premier Russia Studies scholar and was black listed by US mainstream media the moment he began to speak out and against the US-engineered coup d'etat in Kiev in 2014. You can find plenty of his talks and interviews online: absolutely essential viewing!



Melsa Loj

The popularity of this discussion and other videos of Prof. Mearsheimer signals that people are independently seeking answers rather than merely relying on what the mainstream media say.





Facundo Lamas
2 days ago
John Mearsheimer was crystal clear about this for almost a decade (maybe more idk), and he wasnt the only one warning about this, Henrry Keissenger was vocal too since 2006, but sadly the people that could have done something to stop the crisis did not make any course corrections. Now everybody blames someone else while innocent people suffers.

TL;DR: the guy argues that: "The US should relinquish Eastern Europe to Russia and focus on containing China instead"

Seems a bit distasteful to me. He is challenged on it in this interview
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/why-john-mearsheimer-blames-the-us-for-the-crisis-in-ukraine/amp

Posted By: Peter_in_Hungary

Posted By: WillInAberdeenTL;DR: the guy argues that: "The US should relinquish Eastern Europe to Russia and focus on containing China instead"

No thanks, we had Russia here before. In 1956 my wife was hiding in a ditch as Russian tanks rolled by.

Thanks Will. Exactly, Peter. The reactions of Finland, Sweden and Moldova are interesting. You don't hear loud cries for NATO to be dismantled. The US and the rest of the world certainly needs to watch China; I'll agree with that much. But the Soviet Union and its successor states set the scene for Europe just as much as the US did. The US was dragged into this theatre.

BTW Hungary had now taken just over the equivalent of 0.02% of its population in Ukrainian refugees and more expected (welcomed).

The contrast of reactions to Ukranian refugees to those of other countries is huge. But the UK seems to be making a real pig's ear of the business; I'm not sure what the reason is. Interesting how all other news has disappeared from the screen and we're just treated to hour after hour of 'human interest' stories of family disruption.

More accurately, what depths they can't rise from.

Strongly disagree that the victims and perpetrators of domestic assault are 'equally to blame'.

Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryIMO doing nothing is not an option

I didn't say to stop defending, self and others, but to stop manoevring, telling tales, manipulating and threatening. Isn't there a difference, or does defending require the latter? If so, there's no way to disengage - but we know that short of the violent one getting locked up, the way domestic abuse ends is if one (or both) parties somehow disengage. Which can and does happen.

Posted By: WillInAberdeenStrongly disagree that the victims and perpetrators of domestic assault are 'equally to blame'

Mutual blame is part and parcel, as all parties incl the contrarian talking heads in the youtube are perpetuating. The sign that disengagement has happened, is when 'blame' is no longer felt, as in 'more to pity a mad dog than to fear it' (but still defend if it attacks).

Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryCareful with this analogy

Didn't say it was easy, so, to open a discussion I asked

Posted By: fostertomWhat would it look like, for either Russia, or America/the West/us to simply disengage - not to finally defeat, not to move to another planet, but to just stop manoevring, telling tales, manipulating and threatening?

Meanwhile, 'a plague on both houses' - which includes the UK mad-doghouse that devastated Iraq for no 'just' reason.