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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthorTimber
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2015
     
    If you are a TRADA member or know someone who is, you can use their online joist and rafter calculator. It allows bespoke input of sizes (square or rectangular, not round) and it will tell you if it OK.

    So 'square the log off', put those dims in, select strength class (you will still need to get the logs graded) and assumed loadings (some guidance on standard assumed values is provided in the software) and it will confirm if it is OK or not.
    • CommentAuthormike7
    • CommentTimeNov 9th 2015 edited
     
    If you don't want to square off the timber you need the section moment I (that's a capital i) for a round cross section. It is pi/64 times d^4 where d is the log diameter. I took d to be 0.18 metres, in which case I (carefully) make the moment to be 5.10^-5 m^4 or 5.10^7 mm^4

    y is the distance of the wood fibres furthest from the log centre, so that would be 0.09 metres

    With your pitch of 1.4m I get a deflection of 19mm and a max stress of 4.7N/mm^2, not much below the max graded stress quoted for larch of 5.2

    Edit:- Using .18m for the dia might be a bit conservative. Use .2m and the section moment increases to 7.5.10^-5m^4 and so reduce the sag and max stress a lot.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2015
     
    Countryfile had a piece this last weekend about the Architectural Association Graduate School, which looks like a very impressive operation that would likely be able to answer all these questions.

    http://designandmake.aaschool.ac.uk/faqs/

    Just in case anybody is still looking ...
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2015 edited
     
    Design and Make

    Must have been at school at the same time as me.
    I made, then designed, that way the drawings matched the final product perfectly :bigsmile:
    • CommentAuthormike7
    • CommentTimeNov 23rd 2015
     
    Posted By: djhCountryfile had a piece this last weekend about the Architectural Association Graduate School, which looks like a very impressive operation that would likely be able to answer all these questions.

    ...


    I saw that. Not sure I've ever seen a lovelier truss.

    If things go very far that way where will all the waste wood for pellet stoves come from?
    • CommentAuthorDarylP
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2015
     
    Canada and the US..... as now!:devil:
    • CommentAuthormike7
    • CommentTimeNov 24th 2015 edited
     
    http://designandmake.aaschool.ac.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/D-2.jpg

    This is a model. The fullsize thing looked better.
    • CommentAuthorwookey
    • CommentTimeNov 25th 2015 edited
     
    In fact it [snow] totally dominates
    .

    Not when I did my roof calcs (for a flat roof in East Anglia, using eurocode5) it didn't. The point loading (for someone on the roof for maintenance) was the major cause of deflection and thus the thing that determined the timber sizes.
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