Green Building Forum - Green facelift part 2 Tue, 19 Dec 2023 05:56:59 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Green facelift part 2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25235#Comment_25235 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25235#Comment_25235 Sun, 29 Jun 2008 21:28:02 +0100 sune I did initially think (and still do) "why bother spending £200K on a refurb when you could just buy a plot and build something MUCH better (in terms of sustainability and looks) for less" - but then I did forgive the scheme because I thought it would discuss useful, effective, and practical ways to alter an existing and inefficient house.
The first article was a very broad introduction (with no detail) to the project so I expected some real useful detail in the next installment...

Green facelift part 2 was essentially all about the owner choosing oil for heating and then changing his mind in the end in favour of renewables (plus choosing high some high energy lighting and then changing his mind). This was far from fascinating and leads me to think what other mistakes may not have been noticed in this project if something so basic could have been approached with such a misguided attitude...I am the only one who thought this?

Perhaps the project should be planned out a bit better - BEFORE jumping ahead and starting it. I know I would do lots of research before spending out £200K.....and if I was designing a sustainable house and wanted to call it "Green House" I certainly wouldn't be heating with fossil fuels.... or having the fact aired that I wanted to heat with fossil fuels in a magazine called "Green Building" with articles and a readership that have all surely transcended the notion of designing a petrochemical oil heating system into a sustainable house and moved onto things more worthy of their attention.

I would be interested to know, Nick Worsley, if you feel you have been fairly represented in the article(s).

Could we please have something a bit more advanced, with a bit more sense and substance to it for part 3

I may be being cruel or missing out on some valid point or not understanding something or other which should be apparent to me - in which case my apologies.]]>
Green facelift part 2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25290#Comment_25290 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25290#Comment_25290 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:40:07 +0100 SimonH
I've just read this too, and also was a bit surprised at the oil reference. There's about 3 other things I'd consider before going oil. Thankfully they decided in time. I suppose the next thing we'll find is the U value are actually just above 0.35 and made from polyisocyanurate and they decided not to use untreated cladding but a mix of upvc / imported western red cedar and treated with a proprietary fungicide and preservative.. :shamed:

Me I've still at the planning / reasearching stage - I keep going round in circles as just as I think I know what I want I read something that puts me off a previous decision. This months GBM just put me off sliding doors (to replace aging drafty west facing patio doors) and sticky out bits ( where I was going to extend out from some sections of wall that can't be cavity filled).

To be honest - I'll get a proper SAP assessment done to help make my decision, but then again reading GBM this month - even that might not be a good indicator. Aaargh! Ah well, it's good to be kept informed!

At least I've engaged an architect to do some preliminary elevations/plans to discuss with the planners. Although since then - I've decided that instead of putting the bath rooms in the new extension, they can go in the old extension on the north side (keeping pipe runs shorter) and we'll have bedrooms in the new extension at a later date. They can be left unfinished it we run out of cash. Or we can miss the extension off for a year or two if it gets really bad!

Simon]]>
Green facelift part 2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25291#Comment_25291 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25291#Comment_25291 Mon, 30 Jun 2008 22:56:19 +0100 rogerwhit Green facelift part 2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25294#Comment_25294 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25294#Comment_25294 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 00:55:35 +0100 SimonH
I was going to recycle them into a green house and get some new low e sliding folding units, but now think a traditional french door in triple glazed form, with the side bars slightly thinner than the doors will work best. We don't really need the whole space to open up as there's a dining table to one side and sofa to the other. So the opening part is best in the middle. The whole window opening is 3.6m wide- which is why I felt some new units would be better in efficiency terms it's almost the width of the room. I also think French windows will cost around £2000 instead of £5000!

Simon.]]>
Green facelift part 2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25298#Comment_25298 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25298#Comment_25298 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 08:05:27 +0100 rogerwhit Green facelift part 2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25330#Comment_25330 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=2028&Focus=25330#Comment_25330 Tue, 01 Jul 2008 12:37:53 +0100 mrswhitecat