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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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      CommentAuthorOlly
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2007
     
    An article in Building today says that offsite renewables will no longer be permitted for zero caron homes.

    http://www.building.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=3096695

    With regards to the CfSH, this only relates to energy for appliances, all energy for SAP (heating, hot water, pumps, fans etc) has always been required to be produced on site.

    The implications are that this will make code level 6 projects virtually impossible on many sites, and prohibitively expensive on most.

    I'm not sure how this will pan out, I'm currently working on a code level 6 project, and I can tell you that if we need to provide energy (electricity) for appliances on site then we're in serious trouble, there's only so much electricity you can produce on a small site, we already have lots of PV to offset the carbon from the biomass heating/hot water and MVHR, I simply don't think there will be enough roof area to produce the quantities of electricity required. Wind is simply not an option with planning, leaving biomass CHP as just about all that's left and that is simply unproven at this scale (35 units) and the load profile is also completely wrong.

    Is this simply due to concerns that the take up of zero carbon homes for stamp duty exemption will be too high?
    • CommentAuthorTomN
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2007
     
    I've heard that this only applies to stamp duty and not CfSH.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2007 edited
     
    It would be difficult to see how it could relate to CfSH. Though article relates to a Communities statement, not Treasury.

    Perhaps Communities believe we will no longer be constructing within existing urban areas post 2016.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2007
     
    If this only applies to stamp duty then it is not news. The Treasury announced this fact back in March.

    The other 'gotcha' is that the on-site or community microgeneration systems used to qualify for the stamp duty exemption must be accredited under the BRE LCBP.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 5th 2007
     
    I've found that Ed Balls (then Economic Secretary to the Treasury) said this at a Finance Bill Committee meeting on 15th May 2007:

    "The Department for Communities and Local Government is currently consulting on the definition of zero-carbon homes by 2016, which is part of the reason why our approach must be consultative. Our regulations are running in parallel, and it (is) desirable that those consultations end up with aligned definitions. That is our hope and expectation. "

    which suggests that the stamp duty and CfSH zero-carbon definitions will have to be identical at some stage.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2007
     
    Thnaks for that Ted. Very useful.

    Do you have a reference for the -accredited under BRE- gotcha?
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2007
     
    It was in one of the original Budget documents released at the time. I'll try to find it.

    This is the ref for the Ed Balls comment:

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200607/cmpublic/finance/070515/am/70515s02.htm

    just below the label "Column number: 138"
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 6th 2007
     
    The accredited microgeneration clause is item 19 in this doc:

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/budget2007/bn26.pdf

    "19. Later in 2007, the Department of Trade and Industry will launch a scheme
    which will approve micro generation equipment. Use of approved equipment
    will be a requirement of the exemption."

    but the latest version of the draft SI seems to have dropped all mention of the detail included there. Perhaps some of the lobbying that has been going on has actually been successful.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2007
     
    Excellent
    Than you very much Ted

    Jon
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    Just to clarify, when we are talking about using "off-site renewables" for electricity, do we mean a 100% renewable energy tariff with the likes of Good Energy?
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      CommentAuthorOlly
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2007
     
    Just to clarify.

    This DOES apply to the Code for Sustainable Homes, it is included in the new version of the CFSH technical manual.

    Available from here...
    http://www.ibexcellence.org/ (Click Resources on the menu bar and then scroll down to the final link)
    The updated definition for a "True Zero Carbon Home" is on page 31.

    Chris,
    Yes this applies to accredited renewable suppliers such as Good Energy and Ecotricity. These are REGO (Renewable Energy Guarantee of Origin) certified suppliers and the PREVIOUS verison of the CfSH allowed them to be used to supply electricity for appliances.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 10th 2007
     
    Olly

    The final link appears to be regarding Green Offices: I could not find the paper refered to.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 10th 2007
     
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 11th 2007
     
    You're a marvel Ted

    Thanks
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