https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/22/cornish-village-to-pilot-communal-grid-to-source-low-carbon-energy

In Brexit-bastion Cornwall ("What's Europe ever done for us?"),
"£6.2m of funding from the EU’s European Regional Development Fund (ERDF). Hundreds of homes, both new build and older houses and bungalows, in three areas of Cornwall will be linked up to the new system of underground heating"

"The first boreholes were drilled this month in the streets, to install a network of pipes to draw heat from the rock beneath, and feed into heat pumps in individual properties"

Well yes, but apart from that, what's Europe ever done for us?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/jun/22/eu-legislation-restoration-ecosystems-biodiversity-aoe

"targets released by the European Commission include reversing the decline of pollinator populations and restoring 20% of land and sea by 2030, with all ecosystems to be under restoration by 2050. The commission also proposed a target to cut the use of chemical pesticides in half by 2030"

"Around €100bn (£85bn) will be available for spending on biodiversity, including the restoration of ecosystems"

Good job we took back our own way to water down measures then.

Posted By: marsadayWhy do we need to send money to europe to get it back through these schemes? Are we not able and bright enough to carry out stuff like this ourselves ?

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@marsaday

>I just cannot understand why pro europeans cannot see the danger in letting other remote bodies control our lives.

You say that like you're under the impression there is a way to arrange things such that you're in control of your own life..

Paying vast sums of money to EU, which is largely unaudited and unaccountable, results in a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary tax payers to the top 1% in society. I understand that this is happening all the time, but at least within the UK we can change the government and protest for changes to these wealth transfer schemes.

When Greenpeace analysed the top recipients of EU CAP subsidies in the UK, they found that some 16 of the top 100 are owned or controlled by individuals or families who feature on the 2016 Sunday Times rich list.

Aberdeenshire farmer Frank Smart topped the list, receiving nearly £3m in grants for his Banchory business, Frank A Smart & Son Ltd. The farmer has been subject to complaints that he has been “slipper farming” - a technique in which farmers buy up land principally for the grants attached to it.

Prince Khalid Abdullah al Saud, who owns champion racehorse Frankel, has reportedly described his farming interest as a hobby. Juddmonte Farms, which he owns through an offshore holding company in Guernsey, received £406,826 in farm subsidies last year, of which £378,856 came from the single payment scheme.

The two large estates owned by Billionaire Sir James under Beeswax Farming (Rainbow) Ltd received almost £1.5m.

Sandringham Farms, the estate owned by the Queen, received £557,707, while Grosvenor Farms Limited, which farms the Duke of Westminster’s estate, raked in £437,434.

Percy Farms, described by Greenpeace as the “in-hand farming operation” of the Duke of Northumberland, was given £475,031.

The top 100 received £87.9m in agricultural subsidies in 2016, of which £61.2m came from the single payment scheme, where the size of the land owned largely determines the grant amount. Greenpeace said this was more than what was paid to the bottom 55,119 recipients in the single payment scheme combined.

Then of course we have the Common fisheries Policy, where the huge fishing magnates are given a substantial number of the licenses and the throwback policy meant thousands of dead fish were thrown back into the sea until the trawler finally caught the correct number of 'allowed' fish.

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Posted By: marsadayWhy do we need to send money to europe to get it back through these schemes? Are we not able and bright enough to carry out stuff like this ourselves ?

Very clearly, no. As the record now depressingly makes clear, no such public-benefit motives are in play, when the only priority is to shore up the Tory voter-base.

Tom, I'm surprised you can't see through it. You're quick to rail against the Tory government for lack of public benefit motivation; You can kick them out you know.
However, you seen no sinister motivation in the EU divvying up funds, not their own, (they don't have any,) but make it suitably EU logo-ed.
It's quite simply all bribery, exerting influence in order to prop up their corrupt Continent wide scam. Admittedly, aided and abetted by every government that signs up to it looking to get their snouts in the trough.

A couple more interesting projects with different approaches:

https://polarnightenergy.fi/technology
https://stateofgreen.com/en/solutions/world-largest-thermal-pit-storage-in-vojens/

Posted By: WillInAberdeenUsing low-grade sand, the device is charged up with heat made from cheap electricity from solar or wind.

Yes, I was disappointed by that as there is a World-wide sand shortage. Hopefully they can switch to a more sustainable recycled alternative.

https://www.unep.org/news-and-stories/press-release/our-use-sand-brings-us-against-wall-says-unep-report
https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20191108-why-the-world-is-running-out-of-sand