Green Building Forum - Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:35:16 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277610#Comment_277610 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277610#Comment_277610 Sun, 29 Dec 2019 14:05:58 +0000 malakoffee
The existing double glazing was fitted in 2002 approx. The closest room is used as a bedroom. the furthest room is a guest bedroom = storage.

Current challenges :-
These bay windows are badly affected by condensation during the winter. Fully closing the blinds and curtains makes it worse.
During the summer I have to keep the blinds and curtains closed to minimise the solar gain. ( Up until around
midday in mid-summer ).
I used to like the open feel of this huge bay window, however since the new neighbours have arrived, with their "more active" lifestyle I would be quite happy to close down the panoramic aspect.

Possible responses :-
- Do nothing : sell up and move on
OR
- Replace the existing window units with triple-glazed units
OR
- Replan the glazed areas and infill the rest with highly insulated walls. ? How to estimate an acceptable amount of light i.e. How big/small the new windows ?

Additional :-
Either side of the bay windows the corners are cold corners. The internal wall surfaces are prone to ( mild ) mould growth.

Any thoughts or guidance would be appreciated.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277611#Comment_277611 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277611#Comment_277611 Sun, 29 Dec 2019 15:48:13 +0000 gyrogear
"Replacing with 3G" might not be too compatible with "close down the panoramic aspect".
To estimate an acceptable amount of light i.e. How big/small the new windows ?

Perhaps try some external screening first, using planters with bamboos or other tallish plants.

For overheating in summer, perhaps some brises-soleil or even a standalone gazebo-like structure (planted in the garden) to take either creeper plants or decorative infill (screens).

I presume your "outward-bound neighbours" are opposite ? If so, perhaps a hedge to give you some privacy. If their "more active" lifestyle involves fixing cars on the street, maybe contact your local council...

Good luck, as they say, "act in haste, repent at leisure" :devil:

gg]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277626#Comment_277626 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277626#Comment_277626 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 08:34:16 +0000 PeterStarck Posted By: malakoffeeI used to like the open feel of this huge bay window, however since the new neighbours have arrived, with their "more active" lifestyle I would be quite happy to close down the panoramic aspect.

Possible responses :-
- Do nothing : sell up and move on
OR
- Replace the existing window units with triple-glazed units
OR
- Replan the glazed areas and infill the rest with highly insulated walls. ? How to estimate an acceptable amount of light i.e. How big/small the new windows ?

Additional :-
Either side of the bay windows the corners are cold corners. The internal wall surfaces are prone to ( mild ) mould growth.

Any thoughts or guidance would be appreciated.

Have the new neighbours caused you to think about moving house other than for the reasons mentioned. If not it's quite drastic to move house for the sake of altering the windows.
Are the walls insulated, if not, is that causing the mould or are the curtains preventing ventilation and is that causing mould to form.
I don't think triple glazing is going to help at all.
If your 'active' neighbours are on your left and can see into the room through the corner of the bay you could replace the angled area of glazing with insulated wall which wouldn't greatly decrease the amount of light entering the rooms.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277631#Comment_277631 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277631#Comment_277631 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 13:21:49 +0000 malakoffee I've decided => 6metres of privet along the side & 6 metres of green beech along the frontage.

Meanwhile, my primary focus is :- how to improve the thermal performance of the cold-end of the house.

The change in circumstances opens up the possibility of reducing the glazed area. Obviously best to plan and execute this before going ahead with straight-replacement triple-glazing the existing bay window.

The existing wall cavities are filled with some sort of paper-fluff insulation ABOVE the damp-proof course. However, the DPCs are level or sightly higher (!) than the internal floor level.

PS. If I could find a plot I would love to build a super-insulated eco-home to a very similar floorplan to this bungalow.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277632#Comment_277632 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277632#Comment_277632 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 14:24:51 +0000 gyrogear Posted By: malakoffeeIf I could find a plot I would love to build a super-insulated eco-home

wouldn't we all !

however, for the vast majority, the art of music is in eco-renovation...

gg]]>
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Have you registered for a plot with your local council and what are they offering?]]>
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Re. altering the glazed exterior, is the bay an original? It looks like it might have been increased in area at some point (esp. as wall internal room divider wall depth captured in window mullion).

If it has been altered, are there any other same/similar houses locally, that still show the original design? Perhaps you could take it back to the original if that's the case (visually) but employ current insulation/construction techniques to reduce the heat loss??]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277647#Comment_277647 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277647#Comment_277647 Mon, 30 Dec 2019 19:49:23 +0000 Peter_in_Hungary Looking at the photo - it might be difficult to remove or block up the small angled window as this seems to be the only opening light. As a guide to window size look at the regs. I have a feeling that you may have more window than required (is there now a max. recommended of 25% of floor area??) I remember a figure of 20% of floor area with at least half of that opening, which could mean that you do not have enough opening lights to comply (if that matters to you) but I may be wrong about the numbers as I have been out of the UK for some time.]]> Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277668#Comment_277668 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277668#Comment_277668 Thu, 02 Jan 2020 16:12:59 +0000 riboid Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277670#Comment_277670 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=277670#Comment_277670 Thu, 02 Jan 2020 17:32:29 +0000 malakoffee No others have blocked in the sides of the bay.

Floor to wall ratio :-
Currently . . . .
Larger room 38% of window to floor area.
Smaller room 32%

If I went ahead with reducing the glazed area the new 3G units could be specified with appropriately compliant openings.

Things to check :-
Planning Permission required ? Suburban area within a National Park.

Can I get decent 3G with decent frame insulation ( I'm not impressed with my recent 2G unit frames where condensation forms on the frames ( as well as the glass ))]]>
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https://www.newforestnpa.gov.uk/planning/frequently-asked-questions/guide-types-alterations/

Yes, you can get windows with excellent frame insulation - PH or better standard - but they do cost more money!

Your window area does look to be high, especially with a NE aspect.]]>
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IMHO there isn't much point in having 3G without insulated frames. We have Rehau Geneo insulated frames with 3G that meet PH standards.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=278899#Comment_278899 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=278899#Comment_278899 Mon, 17 Feb 2020 21:00:34 +0000 malakoffee
Increased Privacy :
6 metres of yew hedge now planted alongside the boundary with neighbour - although it will take a couple of years before it grows up above the height of the garden wall. . . . patience . .

Experimenting with the overlarge bay window :
I'm experimenting to get some idea of the benefit of replacing the double glazing with triple G.
I have fixed, with magnetic tape, large acrylic sheets across a couple of the large panes.

There is still extensive condensation on the room-side of the acrylic sheets. The volume of condensation is significantly reduced.

If I had I spent a good deal of money buying 3G, then seen the condensation issue still outstanding I would have been very disappointed.


I speculate that high relative humidity in the house : 80% @ 13 degC is most probably due to the damp penetrating the oversite (rough) concrete ( no DPM ). From the subfloor the water vapour proceeds through the insulation jammed between the floor joists : 40mm of PIR + rockwool loft insulation. Finally, round or through the chipboard sheets into the living space.

Notice that there is no vapour control/block layer in the floor sandwich. Do I need one ?

Alternatively, dare I block the airvents and fill the subfloor space with expanded polystyrene beads . . . . . bearing in mind that the oversite concrete shows some dark damp patches after heavy rain ?]]>
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Another way of looking at it might be to say that the high humidity is due to a combination of too little ventilation and perhaps too little heating. 80% is not a good humidity to have inside your home. It can result in all kinds of problems that can eventualy affect your health.]]>
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Another way of looking at it might be to say that the high humidity is due to a combination of too little ventilation and perhaps too little heating. 80% is not a good humidity to have inside your home. It can result in all kinds of problems that can eventually affect your health.
+1

Target humidity levels are 50% ±10%]]>
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This house is full-time occupied by one eco-mentalist. . . . me !
Thanks, that is a useful comparative RH figure and certainly corresponds to the complete disappearance of condensation as soon as the internal temperature rises a couple of degrees in the spring.
? Why don't I turn up the temperature ? -> Are we not facing a severe climate emergency ? Is it not encumbent on every individual to do what they can to cut their fossil fuel CO2 emissions ?

13degreesC is no hardship to me. I'm comfortable in my long-john & pullovers. Fully fit & healthy . . . . . and deeply suspicious of Minimum House Temperature recommended by bodies such as NHS, etc.

? How did we ever survive the winter, for tens of thousands of years before central heating ?

Posted By: GreenPaddyAs to potentially being disappointed with triple glazing, because you got condensation on secondary glazing, not sure that's a logical extrapolation.

. . . . but I think it does give an indication that 3G alone may not solve the condensation problem.

I would prefer to keep the winter internal temperature of the house low but to lower the Relative Humidity.
Better sealing between underfloor and living space is a proposed improvement.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=278916#Comment_278916 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=278916#Comment_278916 Tue, 18 Feb 2020 17:44:53 +0000 djh Posted By: malakoffee? How did we ever survive the winter, for tens of thousands of years before central heating ?
Well, we burnt a lot of wood, peat and latterly coal. Plus a lot more people died early, some specifically from conditions caused or aggravated by the high humidity.

I would prefer to keep the winter internal temperature of the house low but to lower the Relative Humidity.

Check the external humidity in your neighbourhood during winter. I expect you'll find it is very high; sometimes 100% often 90% and the lowest it gets to is likely around 80%. So you only really have two choices:
(a) heat the house somewhat so the temperature increases enough to reduce the RH to 60% or so, or
(b) install a dehumidifier and use that to remove moisture from the atmosphere in the house

Adding a lot of insulation to the house will make it need a lot less heat to keep warm.]]>
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There will often be times when moisture is able to condense on these cold surfaces, whether that moisture is liberated by yourself/cooking/bathing/etc, or moisture from outside as our weather jumps from 0oC to 15oC day by day, and warmer humid air comes in from outside and finds those cold surfaces.

Those "surfaces" may be not necessarily on the visible surface (like a window, or skirting), but may be inside the house structure.

So where am I going with this?? Well, just to raise the possibility that by reducing your carbon footprint a little by reducing heating, you "might" possibly, inadvertently be causing a deterioration of the building fabric, which would of course have a much bigger carbon footprint impact.

Just putting it out there for your consideration :smile:]]>
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gg]]>
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If you increase temperature by 5C then it air holds about 35% more air from 0 to 30 C range.
It is quite a dramatic increase. Or for each 10C rise the air holds about double the water.

Cooking, breathing, laundry and life generate moisture and the air mops it up till it is full and then it drops out on cold surfaces some visible and some not. If air is cold then with same amount of water in the air it is closer to condensation point (100 % RH)

Increase ventilation on cold days when air is dry and cold and sweeps away all the moisture in the house air

If it is raining (100% RH) 13C inside and out, all you can do to get RH down inside the house is heat it up and warm up all the cold stuff that the water can condense on.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=278944#Comment_278944 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=278944#Comment_278944 Wed, 19 Feb 2020 20:17:27 +0000 malakoffee I don't like what I am reading here. [but thanks for taking the time to explain ] . . . . I have to burn more fossil fuel to make the house warmer than I personally would like it to be ? . . . . just to avoid the regular window-vacuum ( condensation clearup ) procedure. :sad:

I think I need to be registering on the Local Authority Self-build register. Hopefully, an insulation-packed, newbuild, carefully constructed by my own fair hand, would provide a much better situation.]]>
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Well no, it can be renewably generated electricity if you'd rather.]]>
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How could any house have been built like that ?

if that is not the problem

I think you have to find out why the R.H is so high
it is not as though external air is entering and cooling down.

In the areas where you get the condensation is the temperature stable over the 24 hours ?
Are those areas at a lower temperature due to a thermal bridge ?
What type of heating are you using ?
How do you dry your laundry ?

What ever that sort of R.H. is not going to do you any good let alone the House as others have said already.]]>
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Incidentally, aircon units aka heat pumps come with a dehumidifying setting, but in my experience only work at temperatures above 16C.]]>
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Are you *really* happy at 13C? With some sensible draughproofing and insulation (removeable secondary insulation on your windows? plastic clingfilm type if you want to test the impact first at minimal cost) and the fuel costs to keep the house a few degrees warmer really shouldn't be that high (or that significant as a proportion of the total impact of you living and eating).]]>
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How could any house have been built like that ? . . . . if that is not the problem . . . I think you have to find out why the R.H is so high
DPC is AT internal floor level on three sides & higher on one side . . . with a discontinuity at the two points of change !
I don't think that it's a major problem . . .but probably doesn't help in the overall situation.

The larger problem :-
This house was built too low w.r.t. ground levels + it sits in a slight dip in the local topography.
During heavy/prolonged rain the water table can rise to the surface.

When I bought the place the oversite concrete was 20cms below the outside ground level on three sides.
I observed large dark patches of damp on the oversite corresponding to heaviest periods of rain ( in 2012 - if you remember that year ). No water penetration though.

First major works (2012) : french drains down to foundation level on the three sides : periscope vents all round to vent the underfloor - where none existed before ! : very large new soakaway : insulation between rafters.

This has all made a previously damp wreck very habitable.

However, the fundementals are perhaps a bits inadequate for my extremophile living requirements.


Posted By: bxmanIn the areas where you get the condensation is the temperature stable over the 24 hours ?
Are those areas at a lower temperature due to a thermal bridge ?

Pretty stable - North-East side of the house. The corners beyond each side of the bay are cold corners. Condensation observed on the underfloor inner-leaf brickwork.

Posted By: bxmanWhat type of heating are you using ?

Gas CH + occasional woodburner on colder evenings

Posted By: bxmanHow do you dry your laundry ?

Outside only !
Kitchen & bathroom have powerful inline fans - which are used diligently.
Microwave oven & breadmaker in garage to keep those steam-generators away from the house.]]>
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Posted By: malakoffee? How did we ever survive the winter, for tens of thousands of years before central heating ?

Well, we burnt a lot of wood, peat and latterly coal. Plus a lot more people died early, some specifically from conditions caused or aggravated by the high humidity.

Plus, for most of that time, by living in extremely well ventilated buildings without window glass, and for most of the last 400 years by still living in pretty drafty buildings with poorly fitting windows and doors.]]>
Bungalow bay window - what modification(s) ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=279022#Comment_279022 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16375&Focus=279022#Comment_279022 Sun, 23 Feb 2020 17:35:19 +0000 bxman Just so long as you have minimal air movement .

my R.H. is nearly always between 40 & 60

80 is absurd.


have a look at

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIDb-pdOnXM



Do you have a water meter?

if so turn everything off and check the meter stops dead.

" the oversite concrete shows some dark damp patches after heavy rain "

Is that area within the house itself ?

"The existing wall cavities are filled with some sort of paper-fluff "

and how damp is that ?

Get some out and if it is not bone dry think about having it removed .]]>
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I think I need to be registering on the Local Authority Self-build register. Hopefully, an insulation-packed, newbuild, carefully constructed by my own fair hand, would provide a much better situation.

If youve got the means, enthusiasm and skills to do a self build, it could be a whole lot cheaper and less effort for you to sort out the damp and insulation problems in your current house and install an ASHP??]]>