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  1.  
    I know many on here are not fans of these but I bought one of 'Energy' units a few months ago and it keeps my 120m square concrete slab toasty. It's in a separate plant room right enough along with the TS and MVHR unit and just does the UFH. Gotta say that I could never get my head around the ones you kept in the house heated the water with. Anyway, was wanting to ask them a simple question (can you set the remote so the backlight stays on) and they seem to have vanished off the face of the earth. Only a couple of weeks ago they were advertising a new Scottish agent.

    Any news chaps?
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2015 edited
     
    Sorry Paul, no idea, though the relevant web sites do look ominous. Might just be a hosting glitch of some sort, of course. The domains still seem to be registered to somewhere sensible.

    I'm confused, though. I thought they were Austrian yet the indications are that they're made in the UK. Is (was?) it that the heat pump itself is Austrian and it gets put in a cylinder in the UK?
  2.  
    Hi Ed,

    I have my suspicions that the pump is Chinese as I've seen very similar ones on AliBaba but I've had mine apart and it seems well enough made with good boards and quality stainless fittings. Found a mobile phone number for one of their engineers today and he was very cagey at first before he realised I wasn't complaining. Also said to phone him if I'd any problems. Have to say that I'm well impressed with it so far as the 800w it consumes matches the output of one of my hydro turbines nicely. Having said that there seems to be a huge difference in the CoP below 10 degrees.

    Can't say that I've ever been a fan of heat pumps, especially 'off grid' but this one has surprised me greatly. I got it off their eBay site for about a third off retail but I see that site is down too.

    How's you build progressing?

    Cheers, Paul
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2015
     
    Had a slow year last year but learned a lot: basically - buy whatever tools seem like they'll be handy and DIY rather than mess around trying to get tradespeeps in to do stuff. Have most of the frame sitting in a container ready to go up as soon as the weather looks like it won't rot it out and blow it away before I can put more structure round it.
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 21st 2015 edited
     
    Company Name ESP ECO RENEWABLE ENERGY LTD.

    Based in Nottingham?

    If it is them, then an intention to dissolve notice has been issued.

    More info on ebuild under the "I see that marks group has gone bust" thread.
    • CommentAuthorskyewright
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2015
     
    Posted By: TriassicCompany Name ESP ECO RENEWABLE ENERGY LTD.

    Based in Nottingham?

    If it is them

    Apparently the above is not them.
    The ebuild topic has gone one to find:

    06547742 : EARTH SAVE PRODUCTS LIMITED
    Based in Wallingford
    Still trading with no negative financial info.
    The address apparently matches to some manuals found online.

    http://www.ebuild.co.uk/topic/17125-i-see-that-mark-group-has-gone-bust/page__st__20#entry146937
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2015 edited
     
    http://www.esavep.com/ and http://www.esavep.co.uk/ show just a “test” page - like a web site which has had all of its contents deleted or something. They have the same IP address so presumably are actually the same site. “whois esavep.com” says:

    Registrant Organization: Earth Save Products Limited
    Registrant Street: Hithercroft Road
    Registrant Street: Unit 6 Henderson House
    Registrant City: Wallingford
    Registrant State/Province: OXF
    Registrant Postal Code: OX10 9DG

    so presumably the outfit Skyewright is talking about. esavep.co.uk gives another Oxfordshire address with the company number Skyewright mentions.

    http://www.ecocent.co.uk 302 redirects to http://www.esavep.co.uk.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2015
     
    Why don't someone phone them up and ask
  3.  
    Why don't someone phone them up and ask

    Cos their phone number isn't on their website :-) Truth is I'm rarely in an environment suitable for telephone conversations during office hours, I hate the phone and my hearing is mince :-(

    Cheers, Paul
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2015
     
    esavep has an Xmas greetings / maintenance page now
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2015
     
    With a phone number, they must have read this thread!
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeDec 22nd 2015
     
    But if you blinked you missed it! They evidently have somebody doing their web site that doesn't undersatnd the difference between test and production. Let's hope it doesn't extend to the products ...
    • CommentAuthorbxman
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2015
     
    Hi Paul

    http://www.heatandplumb.com/brochure_downloads/esavep/ESP_Ecocent_Hot_Water_installation_manual.pdf

    has several phone numbers within it but being 7 years old may not yield anything useful.

    Possibly download it while you can
    cheers Patrick
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeDec 23rd 2015 edited
     
    Posted By: djhBut if you blinked you missed it!
    esavep.com: Christmas greetings (with phone number - I'll whisper it to Paul to have a copy on record).
    esavep.co.uk: Test site.

    They evidently have somebody doing their web site that doesn't undersatnd the difference between test and production. Let's hope it doesn't extend to the products ...
    Yes, completely unnecessary and very unprofessional - the sort of thing that happened in the late 1990s at the latest. Should be able to build the new site offline then roll over the live site in less than an hour, at most.
  4.  
    I'm spending Christmas near Wallingford and just save a van with evasep.com on the side in the supermarket. Didn't have the opportunity to ask them if they were still in business but could be a promising sign?
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