Tue, 19 Dec 2023 04:42:35 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260711#Comment_260711 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260711#Comment_260711 Wed, 23 Aug 2017 22:09:31 +0100 discotroll
I hope I've chosen the right section for this question.

We've actually managed to get planning permission for our upcycled self-build home and are in the process of getting a number of conditions approved before we start works on site. These relate to things such as sound attenuation for the final build, tree protection, archaeological survey for the foundation dig-out - nothing too problematic.

As the main structure is to be of steel and delivered to site by truck, could this be placed on the site (NOT where it is going to eventually be sited - just sat there, on the ground) before we've got conditions signed-off, building control happy with the plans, etc?

As mentioned, there'll be no actual construction works undertaken until conditions are approved but this would enable us to do prep-work to the steel and not lose months waiting for conditions sign off, test pits dug for foundations, etc, before we get the main frame delivered.

Bit of an odd one - but then again it's a bit of an odd development...

Thanks in advance for thoughts,

DT.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260717#Comment_260717 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260717#Comment_260717 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 07:34:01 +0100 Nick Parsons http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260743#Comment_260743 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260743#Comment_260743 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 17:42:47 +0100 CWatters http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260744#Comment_260744 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260744#Comment_260744 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 17:44:12 +0100 CWatters https://ecab.planningportal.co.uk/uploads/1app/forms/form_7_self_build_part_1_exemption_claim.pdf

"An exemption for a self build home must be granted prior to the commencement of the development AND a Commencement (of development) Notice must be received by the Charging/Collecting Authority prior to the date of commencement of the development. The applicant will otherwise be liable for the full levy charge."]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260760#Comment_260760 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260760#Comment_260760 Thu, 24 Aug 2017 22:10:44 +0100 discotroll http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260769#Comment_260769 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260769#Comment_260769 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 12:02:03 +0100 djh http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260773#Comment_260773 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260773#Comment_260773 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 13:19:36 +0100 CWatters
https://www.homebuilding.co.uk/cil-exemption-confirmed/

"While self builders are usually exempt from paying the Community Infrastructure Levy (CIL), an inspector has dismissed one family’s appeal against Croydon Council’s decision to refuse exemption. This came after the council found that the family had already started work on site before the council had confirmed their qualification for exemption."

Definition of "commencement" can be found here but it's a bit vague in places..

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1990/8/section/56]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260785#Comment_260785 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260785#Comment_260785 Fri, 25 Aug 2017 21:57:39 +0100 discotroll

Still gives some clues...

I can understand the concern regarding change-of-use and the site not ending up what has been approved.

The steel structure would be delivered *after* we've got our CIL exemption in our sweaty little hands and the majority of our conditions signed off. The only outstanding condition I think will be our archaeology method statement which relates totally to the digging out process so might be okay. I'll give my LPA a nudge next week and see how the land lies....

Again the input has been brilliant so big thanks to you all! ]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260799#Comment_260799 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260799#Comment_260799 Sat, 26 Aug 2017 14:45:18 +0100 CWatters
Edit: I mean in the general case not yours specifically.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260831#Comment_260831 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15250&Focus=260831#Comment_260831 Mon, 28 Aug 2017 17:23:52 +0100 djh Posted By: CWattersOk the only question I have is over the Commencement (of development) Notice. Can the council refuse to acknowledge receipt of that if you send it to them before getting your planning conditions discharged?
I don't see how you could send a Commencement Notice until you have got your conditions discharged, since the notice includes the date on which you intend to start development. You don't know what that date is (specifically you don't know the earliest possible date) until you have discharged the [pre-development] conditions.]]>