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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthorMaria CEA
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2009
     
    What is the latest on free energy monitors for UK homes? Are they or aren't they? If so, when?

    Maria
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2009
     
    Still waiting for someone to invent free energy I think :-)
    • CommentAuthorMaria CEA
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2009 edited
     
    Genesis , chapter 1, verse 3! :smile:
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeOct 16th 2009
     
    The government binned the whole idea about 18 months ago based on consultation feedback that they should focus on smartmeters instead. These are planned to be phased in by 2020.
  1.  
    quite a few energy companys offer free meters , if you sign up to a particular tariff
    if you dont like the tariff you could always change again once you've got your hands on it .
    here's an example of one.
    http://www.southern-electric.co.uk/ForYourHome/EnergyProducts/betterplan.aspx
  2.  
    http://www.greenbuildingpress.co.uk/article.php?article_id=376
    just noticed this 'Energy monitors available from the library' if you live in Merton
  3.  
    And Sheffield.
    • CommentAuthorMaria CEA
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2009 edited
     
    Here in Worcester, too. I was thinking about buying some wholesale as part of a business plan, but didn't want to proceed if everyone was about to get them free anyway. We have had one for a while and they really make you notice your wasted energy consumption.
    • CommentAuthorDantenz
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2009
     
    Great device, think every household should have one but how accurate are they? No expert on electrics however, have had some dealings with these things over measuring power consumption. Apparently, with large inductive/resistive loads these monitors measure apparent power and not real power; something to do with current & voltage being out of phase with each other. Is this correct???
    • CommentAuthorbillt
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2009
     
    The main source of inaccuracy is that they generally only measure current; you have to set the mains voltage when you set it up. If you get that wrong, or the mains voltage varies significantly they won't be accurate. Power factor is also a potential source of inaccuracy, but not likely to be very large in domestic usage.

    For their intended purpose accuracy is not important. They let you find which are the largest consumers and track down small loads that are on for a long time wasting power. You only need a relative indication for these things, not absolute accuracy.

    If you need higher accuracy there are other relatively inexpensive devices available, but they aren't generally simple plugin devices with a simplistic display.
    • CommentAuthorandyphil
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2009
     
    Hi i bought a owl energy meter just over a year ago, and i have saved over £ 350 on electricity. My wife and I work from home and the monitor helps you remember to switch computers/printers/routers off that are just doing nothing at night. Worth there money.
    • CommentAuthorbrig001
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
     
    We bought an Owl a few months ago and generally like it. The biggest gripe I have is the lack of resolution. It displays units of a Watt, but only has a resolution of 20 or so (did measure it, but can't remember exactly). I tried to find things like chargers and other small loads, but had to switch a few off before the reading changed. Still a good product though and would always recommend them.

    HTH,
    Bri.
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
     
    I'm lost on this: Won't your home meter do the same thing?

    What's special about an Owl that reading off your home meter won't do? (apart from being quicker to measure but not as accurate)
    • CommentAuthorbrig001
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
     
    Hi jon, your home meter measures energy and the Owl measures power.
    energy = power x time

    If you leave a light on, the Owl will tell you that you are using 60W, to see this on your home meter you would have to wait a while and see if you had used any more energy ie the meter reading had advanced.

    Hope that makes sense,
    Bri.
    • CommentAuthorMaria CEA
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
     
    I have a feeling that my Owl monitor takes and average reading over a time step of (possibly 10, maybe more?) seconds. Also, it doesn't register small fluctuations. I guess this is so you can actually read the thing.

    It measures the magnetic field around the wire which is a function of the current. You tell the machine what the mains voltage is and it works out the power. It also gives a running total.

    Maria
    • CommentAuthorjon
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
     
    Thanks, that's what I thought it did. I use one of those through monitors for individual pieces of kit (accurate to 0.1 watts) so I doubt an Owl would be of much use

    What would be useful for me would be something like an Owl that can itemise each bit of kit.
    • CommentAuthorMaria CEA
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009
     
    You can get plug in monitors for this. Prices vary so shop around. Not sure about accuracy.

    Maria
    • CommentAuthorjamesingram
    • CommentTimeOct 19th 2009 edited
     
    Jon
    Most of the wireless whole house meters have a up/down display , so when you turn on and of a single item
    it show the Kw/cost , up or down as well as the total
    I've several I lend to customers/friend (electricsave) and also got one free from Southern electric , signed up for a bit then cleared of to another supplier.
    the SE ones the best and has various displays including cost/Kw used , up/down cost/Kw , day/evening/night usage bar graph , 1/7/30 days total usage in Kw , temperature and time + R45 plug ( must ask'em what thats for ,uploading data I presume)

    cheers Jim
    • CommentAuthorstephendv
    • CommentTimeOct 20th 2009
     
    Posted By: jon
    What would be useful for me would be something like an Owl that can itemise each bit of kit.


    This will do that: http://www.plugwise.com/en/domestic/home-use
  4.  
    Just notice imeasure have launched a new version of the free domestic energy monitoring tool for small to medium businesses

    http://www.smeasure.org.uk/

    SMEasure is a free easy-to-use energy
    management tool enabling your business
    to measure, benchmark and target your
    building’s energy use and emissions.
    Designed by leading energy researchers at Oxford University, SMEasure connects
    small and medium businesses (SMEs) with building energy management expertise and good practice.

    http://www.imeasure.org.uk/

    "It's free, it's new, and it helps YOU save energy and money.
    Test your energy score - can you beat your best friends?
    Get accurate facts on your home energy use.
    See the difference your energy saving actions are really making and compete with friends for the top spot.
    REGISTER and start taking your gas and/or electric meter readings. "
    "imeasure has been created by Oxford University's Environmental Change Institute, part of the UK Energy Research Centre. "
  5.  
    Hi,

    Anyone had a go with the google powermeter??
    Any experiences in or out of the UK?

    Cheers
    Mike up North
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