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    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeSep 11th 2015
     
    Posted By: SteamyTea:bigsmile:" alt=":bigsmile:" src="http:///newforum/extensions/Vanillacons/smilies/standard/bigsmile.gif" >


    Always compare todays cash price with the best saving rates you can find today (Virgin are offering 2.06% for 2 years).


    If you have a mortgage, you should compare it with what a long term fix rate mortgage costs.
    • CommentAuthorGreenfish
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2015 edited
     
    Here would be my prefered approach:

    Forget MCS approveal and costly certification. Forget FIT, broken promises etc.

    PV electronics installed to Part P safe electrical standards (by ordinary sparky). On roof by someone with head for heights and to building regs for quality (so stay on in wind, not break roof, not leak rain etc.)

    Meter that can run both ways. Standard cost per unit. If my meter reading is ahead of the last one then I pay the supplier. If my reading is less e.g. I have generated and exported more than I used, then the supplier pays me. Oh and a fixed fee goes to the DNO for maintaining a network.

    Simple, fair, easy to implement. What do you think?
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      CommentAuthorjoe90
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2015
     
    Absolutely spot on in my opinion, shame we got rid of the old meters that ran backwards ( so I heard).
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2015
     
    Yep, that's basically the US net-metering scheme and quite sensible. I'd even be happy with a slightly smarter meter that counted imports and exports separately and paid a slightly lower rate for exports than you pay for imports.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2015
     
    Net metering could only work if people were prepared to pay a standing charge of about £2/day in order to meet suppliers, DNO and National Grid fixed costs and profit margins.

    MCS is unlikely to go away even with no FiTs, but exactly how that is going to work remains to be seen. MCS are in the process of setting themselves up in a structure pretty much identical to Gas Safe, so it may become compulsory to use an MCS installer for all renewable electricity systems with DIY outlawed as it is for gas, although I personally cannot see that working very well.
    • CommentAuthoratomicbisf
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2015 edited
     
    Posted By: tedNet metering could only work if people were prepared to pay a standing charge of about £2/day in order to meet suppliers, DNO and National Grid fixed costs and profit margins.

    MCS is unlikely to go away even with no FiTs, but exactly how that is going to work remains to be seen. MCS are in the process of setting themselves up in a structure pretty much identical to Gas Safe, so it may become compulsory to use an MCS installer for all renewable electricity systems with DIY outlawed as it is for gas, although I personally cannot see that working very well.


    £2/day standing charge would be more than the entirety of the average electricity bill. It's the equivalent of more than 5500 kWh/year at 13p/kWh.

    What would be a fair, unsubsidised price for domestic Pv electricity fed into the grid? Would it be the same as for electricity from utility scale generation or more because it will mostly be used nearby and not need transforming for long distance transmission?

    Ed
    • CommentAuthorbillt
    • CommentTimeSep 12th 2015
     
    Posted By: tedMCS are in the process of setting themselves up in a structure pretty much identical to Gas Safe, so it may become compulsory to use an MCS installer for all renewable electricity systems with DIY outlawed as it is for gas, although I personally cannot see that working very well.


    I sincerely hope not, yet another pointless, costly bureaucracy.

    DIY gas install is something of a grey area. The legislation says that installers must be "competent" without defining what competent means. That doesn't rule out DIY if you consider yourself competent.

    Don't have gas now, but many years ago I installed a gas CH system, but got a "profesional" to connect it up. A matter of 2M of pipe, 2 unions and an elbow. It leaked. I don't have a high opinion of any "professionals" until the have proved themselves competent, which doesn't mean being a member of a fee harvesting body like Gas sefe (or MCS).
    • CommentAuthorDantenz
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2015
     
    You have to be competent in order to sign up to the Gas Safe register. Gas competency is proved through the ACS (approved competency scheme) qualification that ALL would be Gas Safe registered engineers must obtain first - individuals are practically & written assessed to demonstrate safe working practices; this qualification then lasts for 5 years. Once someone has passed the core gas assessment they are deemed "competent" regardless of whether they sign up to the Gas Safe register however, it is illegal to work on any gas installation or appliance unless you are Gas safe registered.
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2015
     
    Posted By: billtI sincerely hope not, yet another pointless, costly bureaucracy.
    Indeed. Can't quite put my finger on the right expression to describe it - something a bit like a protection racket but not quite.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2015
     
    Posted By: Ed Davies
    Posted By: billtI sincerely hope not, yet another pointless, costly bureaucracy.
    Indeed. Can't quite put my finger on the right expression to describe it - something a bit like a protection racket but not quite.

    closed shop
    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeSep 14th 2015
     
    Posted By: Dantenz Once someone has passed the core gas assessment they are deemed "competent" regardless of whether they sign up to the Gas Safe register however, it is illegal to work on any gas installation or appliance unless you are Gas safe registered.


    Not 100% true, it is illegal to charge for any work you do, but you can still work on a gas installation you own yourself. Unlike Part P!
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeSep 15th 2015
     
    1. I don't think the 87% cut in FIT is a done deal. There is furious opposition from the industry and they are hoping the government will reconsider.

    2. Next month Piclo is launching an online market for renewable electricity which, as far as I can see, is a sort of AirBnB for microgenerators and consumers. To sell electricity through Piclo you must provide half-hourly export metering. http://piclo.uk/
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