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    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2010
     
    • CommentAuthorMike George
    • CommentTimeJun 13th 2010 edited
     
    Almost unbelievable. What's most frightening is the comparative depths of the leaks. Seems the only the thing that will work is the relief wells - a long time away
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJun 15th 2010
     
    And to give it some perspective, as if needed...

    http://www.ifitwasmyhome.com/

    Shows the size of the affected area relative to the UK.
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    Nature appears to be coping rightly, despite the earlier media hysteria.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeAug 2nd 2010
     
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010
     
    Posted By: CWattersAnyone remember...


    Yes, the Hotel we stayed at for our family holiday had a gallon can of gasoline and some rags by the entrance. Ah they were simpler times:devil:
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    I am no lover of BP but I do hate the USA media attacking a "British" company when in all reality it is mostly American. Also the failed blow off safety valve was made in the USA!!!! I do not agree with the states as a rule and for a country that is more dependent on black gold than anyone!! Ironic is the word.
    Maybe if they pulled the army back from Iraq defending oil rites and concentrated on other energy sources!
    BBBBAAAAHHHH.
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    Posted By: gustyturbineI do hate the USA media attacking a "British" company when in all reality it is mostly American.
    I thought I was the only one to be taken aback by this. This is clearly a huge environmental disaster, but it happened in US waters, under the supervision of US based staff, under US government jurisdiction & in the interests of providing oil to the US economy. The fact that the company has headquarters in the UK is an irrelevant distraction. Americans need to look closer to home if they are really interested in reducing the chances of something like this happening again.

    David
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: gustyturbineoil rites
    you put your finger on it there!

    The anger at the disaster was (is) absolutely right but it's obscene how the public, UK as well as US, is as always so easily diverted into looking for scapegoats, so as to remain oblivious to the real systemic point.

    As far as the public, UK as well as US is concerned, the banking collapse was due to rash banking practices, govt failure to regulate same, and greedy fat cats at the top, especially the few who were named and shamed. The public was fed that blame/scapegoat stuff by the media, and swallowed it whole. The media was fed that stuff by govt and banking/business interests and as usual danced to the paymaster's tune. The more general truth, that the banking system is a legalised lie or con (as in "we must restore confidence in the banking system/the £/the economy") that can only collapse entirely, once he juggling is no longer sustainable, was thereby completely missed by the public. The media could only put out those lies because the public was avid to buy same, and definitely did not want to be told how shaky our foundations are.

    As far as the public, UK as well as US is concerned, the oil disaster was due to rash drilling practices, govt failure to regulate same, and what do you expect from the Brits, especially BP's chairman, and especially when UK plc presumes to seriously compete with USA Inc. The public was fed that blame/scapegoat stuff by the media, and swallowed it whole. The media was fed that stuff by govt and oil/business interests and as usual danced to the paymaster's tune. The more general truth, that the oil industry is dying of its own physiology and can only collapse entirely, once the financial and environmental cost of depletion is no longer sustainable, was thereby completely missed by the public. The media could only put out those lies because the public was avid to buy same, and definitely did not want to be told how shaky our foundations are.
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010 edited
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: gustyturbine</cite>I do hate the USA media attacking a "British" company</blockquote>

    Actually I felt outrage at US politicians attitude to their "special relationship" friends over this tangential but related affair http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jul/23/jack-straw-lockerbie-senate . Might means right I suppose . http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1986_Bombing_of_Libya
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010
     
    Which bit are you pointing to in the Libya issue?
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010 edited
     
    At US duplicity . They literally do as they please i.e. drop bombs on Libya . Now personally I do think the Scots were naive and plain wrong to release Al Megrahi . But I think the US have no right to "summon" UK ministers over to the US to answer for it . It was not only US citizens who perished .
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    Posted By: fostertomThe public was fed that blame/scapegoat stuff by the media, and swallowed it whole. The media was fed that stuff by govt and oil/business interests and as usual danced to the paymaster's tune.
    I think this sums it up very well. No one has any interest in defending BP. The government needs to make it look like BP was outside their control & imply that it was in some way acting under British government control. The other oil companies want to avoid being tarred with the same brush & hope to snap up BP assets at bargain basement prices by talking down the value of the same. The public want to see BP as an aberration rather than a product of the system that's been put in place to serve their appetite for oil.

    David
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 3rd 2010
     
    This disaster could have happened (and probably will) to any of the oil cos, of any 'nationality'. They're all equally 'guilty' and probably sighing with relief at not being the fall guy, this time.

    As gustyturbine says, multinational corps are 'owned' by shareholders from all over and owe no allegiance or control to any country, whatever their marketing/image may imply. Therefore, it's absurd to build a whole political philosophy around the belief that 'British industry has died'. Most of the parties, from UKIP right down to the Libs seem to believe that, blaming each other for mismanagement. Most of the public feels lost and humiliated by Britain's apparent fall from industrial power. None of it true.

    We could instead ask 'what %age of world industry is 'owned' by British-national shareholders' - and I suspect the answer would be 'a disproportionately high %age' - which should please those who care about such things but actually wd be equally meaningless.

    A better question wd be 'in which countries do the shareholder 'owners' of world industry spend their dividend income?' and I think that the answer to that would show UK still well up the table, but slipping. That wd be the real measure of national economic decline.

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