Tue, 19 Dec 2023 04:41:00 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257755#Comment_257755 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257755#Comment_257755 Wed, 03 May 2017 12:55:56 +0100 Peter_in_Hungary
Question - can my friends move into the conversion now and wait for regs sign off in one years time when the new cess pit is done and can there be any come back if they do move in? (no mortgage or loans involved)]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257758#Comment_257758 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257758#Comment_257758 Wed, 03 May 2017 13:34:52 +0100 djh http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257761#Comment_257761 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257761#Comment_257761 Wed, 03 May 2017 14:05:04 +0100 Jamster
Obviously, you'd struggle to sell it on the open market and if you had a mortgage it would be a but more compliced, but in this situation, I'd just get moved in...]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257768#Comment_257768 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257768#Comment_257768 Wed, 03 May 2017 16:18:09 +0100 djh http://www.allerdale.gov.uk/planning-and-buildings/building-control/occupation-of-a-building-follo.aspx

"If the building is to be occupied before it is completed, you must tell us at least five days before occupation takes place so we can inspect it."

Oh and occupying the building will mean it is deemed complete for council tax purposes at that date.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257775#Comment_257775 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257775#Comment_257775 Wed, 03 May 2017 17:03:20 +0100 Peter_in_Hungary http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257797#Comment_257797 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257797#Comment_257797 Wed, 03 May 2017 23:07:45 +0100 cjard http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257811#Comment_257811 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257811#Comment_257811 Thu, 04 May 2017 17:22:39 +0100 Greenfish
Got the completion certificate last September, it then took 6 months of chasing by us to get registered at the valuation office and eventually a council tax bill (back dated to Sept), so none of the "soon as you have a roof the council want paying" stuff from Cornwall Couincil, all very reasonable.

Our independant BCO was happy to complete, he siad they had 100s of incomplete buildings some that way for many years, and the boss wanted to tidy up the books a bit. But living in an uncertified building as we had done was nothing unusual for self build.

Conversely, the reason to get the completion certificate if to be able to reclaim the VAT.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257812#Comment_257812 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257812#Comment_257812 Thu, 04 May 2017 19:42:58 +0100 Ed Davies http://www.legislation.gov.uk/asp/2003/8/section/21 There's a bit in there about the certifier telling the local authority about issuing such certificates, I assume for council tax collection.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257815#Comment_257815 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=257815#Comment_257815 Thu, 04 May 2017 21:18:13 +0100 djh
I don't know what the actual rules are. I haven't found them in my searches, which is why I quoted one example. I suggest asking the local building control office.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=274540#Comment_274540 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=274540#Comment_274540 Fri, 12 Jul 2019 11:48:24 +0100 ComeOnPilgrim
RGM Properties Ltd v Anthony Speight (Listing Officer) HMRC [2011] EWHC 2125 (Admin), per Langstaff J:

'63 ... I am assured by Miss Ward that her best researches and the information, which she has from those who instruct her is to the effect that so far as she is aware there is no legal bar to occupation in circumstances where a situation such as the present might occur. If there were a breach of planning control (for instance) or a failure to comply with building regulations, that might cause legal difficulty for the building owner, but it would not legally proscribe occupation by an occupant.'

See also The Building Regulations 2010 / 2214 regulations 17A and 35.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=274545#Comment_274545 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=15081&Focus=274545#Comment_274545 Fri, 12 Jul 2019 22:45:56 +0100 Mike1 Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryThanks for that djh. Do you know if this is a national regulation or a local option. I have looked on the site of the council concerned (Canterbury, Kent) and could find nothing about occupation of a building after building works.
That's part of the Regs:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2010/2214/regulation/16]]>