Tue, 19 Dec 2023 06:25:09 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300088#Comment_300088 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300088#Comment_300088 Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:46:40 +0000 philedge Posted By: djhWon't it simply be a case of making it illegal to sell new stoves that don't meet the new rules?

The rules only apply in urban areas so dirtier stoves can still be sold for rural areas. I guess the rules are to stop townies buying the dirtier stoves?? It's interesting that they've moved compliance responsibility from manufacturers/retailers/installers to the user]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300089#Comment_300089 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300089#Comment_300089 Thu, 02 Feb 2023 18:49:56 +0000 philedge
I wonder how they reached the 38% quoted. I would assume it was more theory than fact."

I guess they can analyse the PM in air samples and work out the source and proportion of the different types??]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300096#Comment_300096 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300096#Comment_300096 Thu, 02 Feb 2023 22:56:35 +0000 Jonti Posted By: philedge"Jonti 1 hour ago quote

I wonder how they reached the 38% quoted. I would assume it was more theory than fact."

I guess they can analyse the PM in air samples and work out the source and proportion of the different types??

For the whole country???
]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300103#Comment_300103 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300103#Comment_300103 Fri, 03 Feb 2023 13:20:42 +0000 revor
The point I was alluding to and not very well is that the more smoke you have the more particles of all different sizes you would have. So hopefully I will have less 2.5 particles than my neighbour with a tarry glass door.

Why does quote not work between pages is there a way of doing it? Q91 seems to have managed it]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300104#Comment_300104 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300104#Comment_300104 Fri, 03 Feb 2023 15:19:44 +0000 Mike1 Posted By: revorWhy does quote not work between pages is there a way of doing it? Q91 seems to have managed itIt's only possible manually - the forum software is too old to support it automatically.

See http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17633]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300183#Comment_300183 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300183#Comment_300183 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 19:21:24 +0000 renewablejohn Posted By: revorIt is not the particles that you can see that are dangerous, it is the very tiny ones.

The point I was alluding to and not very well is that the more smoke you have the more particles of all different sizes you would have. So hopefully I will have less 2.5 particles than my neighbour with a tarry glass door.

Why does quote not work between pages is there a way of doing it? Q91 seems to have managed it

It really is a non story. The car industry introduced cat's on exhausts to reduce pollution so if your so concerned just fit an electrostatic filter on your chimney stack, problem solved. Its not even new technology being around for at least a decade.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300184#Comment_300184 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300184#Comment_300184 Tue, 07 Feb 2023 20:10:32 +0000 chrisinbrighton http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300242#Comment_300242 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300242#Comment_300242 Sun, 12 Feb 2023 00:39:28 +0000 WillInAberdeen
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/gas-stoves

This doesn't seem to even be a debate in the UK. Does anyone have any knowledge about how pollutants from gas cooking hobs stack up against other sources of air pollution?]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300247#Comment_300247 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300247#Comment_300247 Sun, 12 Feb 2023 13:06:46 +0000 djh Gruenwald also compared stoves to having a smoker around, saying: “The stove is frankly going to be the main source of pollution if you don’t live in a home with a smoker.”]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300253#Comment_300253 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300253#Comment_300253 Sun, 12 Feb 2023 14:27:59 +0000 WillInAberdeen
"A new study has now sketched out the risk being posed to children exposed to pollutants such as nitrogen dioxide that spew from the stoves, finding that 12.7% of all current cases of childhood asthma in the US are due to the use of gas stoves."

Weird that the UK edition is running a campaign on wood burning stoves, while the US edition has very similar concerns about gas stoves, but neither edition is reporting on the other's concerns.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300258#Comment_300258 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300258#Comment_300258 Sun, 12 Feb 2023 18:37:55 +0000 chrisinbrighton I remember when it was scented candles and before that burnt toast.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300261#Comment_300261 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16867&Focus=300261#Comment_300261 Sun, 12 Feb 2023 20:05:53 +0000 djh