Green Building Forum - EU:- in or out? Tue, 19 Dec 2023 07:35:04 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 EU:- in or out? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272137#Comment_272137 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272137#Comment_272137 Thu, 24 Jan 2019 18:21:04 +0000 fostertom Posted By: djhHow do we build a green bomb shelter?Don't be facetious, flippant!]]> EU:- in or out? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272138#Comment_272138 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272138#Comment_272138 Thu, 24 Jan 2019 19:34:24 +0000 djh EU:- in or out? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272139#Comment_272139 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272139#Comment_272139 Thu, 24 Jan 2019 21:58:30 +0000 fostertom EU:- in or out? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272303#Comment_272303 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272303#Comment_272303 Thu, 07 Feb 2019 00:03:36 +0000 bxman EU:- in or out? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272428#Comment_272428 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272428#Comment_272428 Mon, 11 Feb 2019 11:42:18 +0000 torrent99
One question that leave supporters don't ask when the topic of the EU Army is brought up is WHY NOW?

Back in early 2016:

1) We didn't have Brexit. The EU could rely on the UK and its forces being around.
2) We didn't have TRUMP. The EU could rely on the USA's support via NATO.


With both of these factors (particularly) there is much less certainty that NATO will provide sufficient strength to protect the countries in the EU from an increasingly aggressive Putin.
Will Trump provide sufficient troops?
Will Trump side with Putin? Is Trump actually in the pay of Putin?
Will the UK be in any position economically to provide the forces required?
Will the UK be aligned with the US and thus if US support is in question, is the UKs also?

Naturally the countries of the EU are getting nervous, they need to compensate for the risks of not having US & UK military support. Being in the EU where cooperation is part and parcel of being a member, they are naturally seeking to cooperate to reduce the risk.

Even if the UK were to remain a member, it would of course maintain a veto for its own forces joining such a venture.

It's not some conspiracy, it's just a natural consequence of Trump and Brexit.]]>
EU:- in or out? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272431#Comment_272431 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=14279&Focus=272431#Comment_272431 Mon, 11 Feb 2019 13:10:22 +0000 Pile-o-Stone