Green Building Forum - Sustainable Olympics! Tue, 19 Dec 2023 04:49:48 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108185#Comment_108185 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108185#Comment_108185 Fri, 22 Apr 2011 14:52:35 +0100 tony
"The organisers say they are on track to deliver the world's first "truly sustainable" Olympic Games!!"

I cant see that --- the first games might have been but now --- no way.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108192#Comment_108192 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108192#Comment_108192 Fri, 22 Apr 2011 17:00:32 +0100 Joiner Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108198#Comment_108198 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108198#Comment_108198 Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:09:05 +0100 SteamyTea
I have stopped using the term 'sustainable' and just convert it all to kWh and Power. Seems that a common base is easier to deal with. Easy enough to calculate/estimate the amount of energy a person will use over a lifetime and how much energy a set amount of money can buy. All the rest is just technology change and accountancy.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108199#Comment_108199 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108199#Comment_108199 Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:24:11 +0100 CWatters Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108201#Comment_108201 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=108201#Comment_108201 Fri, 22 Apr 2011 22:31:41 +0100 SteamyTea ]]> Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109652#Comment_109652 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109652#Comment_109652 Tue, 17 May 2011 14:39:58 +0100 Mike (Up North)
Here’s another sustainable one for you all, I noted with interest that a pump manufacturer exhibiting at the Sustainability Live showcase it was the IWEX part (water & effluent) are offering under their Ferrari theme prize tickets to the British F1.
That’s encouraging
Cheers
Mike up North]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109655#Comment_109655 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109655#Comment_109655 Tue, 17 May 2011 14:58:20 +0100 Timber
Burning rubber and exhaust fumes. I wish I could get that as a 'scent for man'

Joking aside, what is the re-use rate of the accomodation and stadiums?

If all athlete accomodation is to be used for social housing after the games, that is sort of sustainable (in a mangled kind of way). Although I suspect it will end up being mangled around and an overall story of failure.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109656#Comment_109656 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109656#Comment_109656 Tue, 17 May 2011 14:59:46 +0100 SteamyTea

Did see an a classic car hire company claiming sustainable credentials on the grounds that if you hire one of their E-Types you do not need to buy a new car.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109660#Comment_109660 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109660#Comment_109660 Tue, 17 May 2011 15:48:42 +0100 orangemannot Totally non productive plus very very consumer driven/ orientated, guzzling ioswhatsit stuff instead of water, needlessly changing kit etc etc.
What could be less sustainable?
did I mention
Bah Humbug!]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109661#Comment_109661 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109661#Comment_109661 Tue, 17 May 2011 15:55:25 +0100 Joiner
Mind you, the extensively modified souped-up engines of the E-types took them around a German test-track faster than a Ferrari, so I guess they failed the eco-test there. But on the matter of "sustainability" they truly were object lessons in recycling. :bigsmile::smoking:]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109663#Comment_109663 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109663#Comment_109663 Tue, 17 May 2011 16:07:13 +0100 SteamyTea
There is a myth that people that do manual work do not use any more energy than my lodger (slovenly and idle), they do, a lot more.

If we can decide on all energy being supplied by the sun (i know there is a bit of nuclear and gravity) then by calculating the number of m^2 a person needs to be sustained (how many calories can you grow to live) then you have a benchmark to work from. Think we covered this somewhere else.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109665#Comment_109665 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109665#Comment_109665 Tue, 17 May 2011 16:19:30 +0100 Joiner
Reductionism, the enemy of the lumpen proletariat.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109668#Comment_109668 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109668#Comment_109668 Tue, 17 May 2011 16:36:00 +0100 Mike (Up North)
Actually I found quite a lot of info about the games on New Civil Engineer (NCE) website - July 2010 article - Brown to Green. You have to register to down load the article, more about the ground etc etc than the buildings/infra structure as such but an interesting read anyway.

cheers

Miike up North]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109728#Comment_109728 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109728#Comment_109728 Wed, 18 May 2011 13:05:50 +0100 SteamyTea As an aside if anyone is interested it now costs £4 to park there and a small pot of tea (and I mean small) is £2.20. I pretended I was part of the 'crew' and bluffed my way in and just helped myself to the tea that was laid out on a table for all the important people, I held back from stealing a bacon roll though.
What really made me giggle was the two photo journalists trying to get their mobile broadband to work anywhere :bigsmile:

Link to a small video of the fog, you may hear the horn going off:
http://www.4shared.com/video/ZUn4NdaX/Olympic_Torch.html]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109741#Comment_109741 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109741#Comment_109741 Wed, 18 May 2011 17:38:14 +0100 seascape Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109742#Comment_109742 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109742#Comment_109742 Wed, 18 May 2011 17:50:28 +0100 SteamyTea Actually I said nothing to them, just wondered why they needed a second sign there. The usual one has been there since I was a kid. The sky was the same as when I first went there too.]]> Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109759#Comment_109759 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109759#Comment_109759 Wed, 18 May 2011 20:50:18 +0100 Joiner

Despite a family with roots deep in the county, I'd never been there until No2 son moved to St. Austell. Asked him what it was like.

"Wet."]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109761#Comment_109761 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109761#Comment_109761 Wed, 18 May 2011 20:59:21 +0100 SteamyTea Posted By: Joiner"Wet."

Be fair. Wet most days:cool:]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109764#Comment_109764 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109764#Comment_109764 Wed, 18 May 2011 21:22:20 +0100 jamesingram Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109765#Comment_109765 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109765#Comment_109765 Wed, 18 May 2011 21:23:47 +0100 SteamyTea
The Matt cartoon today was about the Olympics:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/matt/]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109767#Comment_109767 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109767#Comment_109767 Wed, 18 May 2011 21:51:42 +0100 jamesingram Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109768#Comment_109768 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109768#Comment_109768 Wed, 18 May 2011 21:52:48 +0100 Mike (Up North) Just tried to up load some docs wot I downloaded and it wont for 2 reasons 1) too big 2) not allowed but they do email and open ok so any suggestions other than email to who ever wants a read. I found some more on another site. Seems to be quite a lot on the area. Also of interest is the combined heat / power cooling / centre, ie 2 x gas turbs (size?) and a 3MW th bio mass etc not saying thats sustainable exactly but interesting to techy types.

e mail in profile if no other suggestions

Cheers
Mike up North]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109784#Comment_109784 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109784#Comment_109784 Thu, 19 May 2011 07:34:01 +0100 SteamyTea Try the 4Shared site
http://www.4shared.com/

Create an account, download the little software application, drag what you want into the appropriate folder, let it upload and then get a link to it. It can upload on a regular basis or every time you make a change to the folder.
Works for me.
Don't put up anything that you don't want to share with the world though, even if you keep it private.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109838#Comment_109838 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109838#Comment_109838 Thu, 19 May 2011 19:02:23 +0100 Brianwilson New report details 4.5 million ha needs to be diverted from food production to biofuel feedstock in EU. News report today details UK decision to divert 1 million ha from food to biomass and centres on demise of brown hare due to change in habitat. We are aware biomass such as willow requires minimum summer rainfall 600mm, current rainfall in Eastern Counties display need for massive constant irrigation.
I see special public service awards are being given to hospitals investing massive funds into conversion to woodchip boilers despite knowledge this increases hazardous PM pollution 80 times higher than gas alternative. The press are also giving recycling awards to companies using waste wood to provide energy although operating efficiency is sub 16%, hazardous pollution 260 times higher than gas and they admit they are diverting wood from far superior truly recycling streams such as panel manufacture.
Sadly we do appear to live in la la land.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109851#Comment_109851 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109851#Comment_109851 Thu, 19 May 2011 21:07:11 +0100 Mike (Up North) Done the 4share thingy (hopefully) i think it needs a few hours before it works. I think I then need to tell you what to look for file wise.
I think thern you can down load then to read, all offered without comment good or bad, just offered for discussional (made up word!) purposes. The bio mass seems to have caught some interest.

Cheers
Mike up north]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109853#Comment_109853 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109853#Comment_109853 Thu, 19 May 2011 21:22:06 +0100 SteamyTea If you open up the little 4Share application that hides down the bottom right, near the clock, Right click on the file you then get the 'Get Link'.
Copy and past that into here and all done.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109855#Comment_109855 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109855#Comment_109855 Thu, 19 May 2011 22:08:15 +0100 Mike (Up North)
[URL=http://www.4shared.com/document/hFpDnbOk/Brown_to_Green.html][IMG]http://dc365.4shared.com/img/hFpDnbOk/Brown_to_Green.pdf[/IMG][/URL]
[URL=http://www.4shared.com/document/R0FQov7k/olymp_envir_management.html][IMG]http://dc365.4shared.com/img/R0FQov7k/olymp_envir_management.pdf[/IMG][/URL]
[URL=http://www.4shared.com/document/pCjnLdKW/olymp_sustain_management.html][IMG]http://dc365.4shared.com/img/pCjnLdKW/olymp_sustain_management.pdf[/IMG][/URL]

Cheers]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109860#Comment_109860 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109860#Comment_109860 Fri, 20 May 2011 06:30:41 +0100 SteamyTea
Brown_to_Green
http://www.4shared.com/document/hFpDnbOk

olymp_envir_management.html
http://www.4shared.com/document/R0FQov7k

olymp_sustain_management.html
http://www.4shared.com/document/pCjnLdKW

Think they work now, you have to go to the blue ' Download Now' link and then an annoying 20second wait.]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109870#Comment_109870 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=109870#Comment_109870 Fri, 20 May 2011 09:00:53 +0100 Joiner
http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/forum114/comments.php?DiscussionID=7309]]>
Sustainable Olympics! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=110125#Comment_110125 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7302&Focus=110125#Comment_110125 Wed, 25 May 2011 08:25:45 +0100 CWatters