Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:37:00 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300483#Comment_300483 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300483#Comment_300483 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 22:20:03 +0000 bogal2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300484#Comment_300484 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300484#Comment_300484 Mon, 27 Feb 2023 22:22:32 +0000 bogal2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300488#Comment_300488 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300488#Comment_300488 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 08:26:26 +0000 revor http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300489#Comment_300489 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300489#Comment_300489 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:24:10 +0000 GreenPaddy top of the chimney terminal to be min. 2.3m horizontally from the roof. So if a 45 degree roof, then min. 2.3m vert above the roof.

maybe challenge on smokeless zone, if they happen to live in one, as I assume wood (stove) is not smokeless?? Maybe the stove is classed as smokeless??]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300490#Comment_300490 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300490#Comment_300490 Tue, 28 Feb 2023 09:26:57 +0000 Peter_in_Hungary
There was a case here a time back where Mikeee5 had a problem that ran from 2012 to 2018. Long long story short his neighbours chimney (using a wood burning stove) was causing a nuisance. Mikeee5 got it sorted in the end (he won his court case and got a solution) but the main problem IMO was the authorities were reluctant to get of their backsides and enforce the available regs.

If you want a read (all 1647 posts over 6 years) then see

http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=9305&page=1#Item_0
Smoke Nuisance – is wood wood?

But as I said I think attitudes have changed (for the better)]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300566#Comment_300566 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300566#Comment_300566 Thu, 02 Mar 2023 18:45:04 +0000 bogal2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300567#Comment_300567 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300567#Comment_300567 Thu, 02 Mar 2023 20:14:32 +0000 djh https://www.planningportal.co.uk/permission/common-projects/flue-chimney-or-soil-and-vent-pipe/planning-permission/

"Fitting, altering or replacing an external flue, chimney, or soil and vent pipe is normally considered to be permitted development, not requiring planning consent, if the conditions outlined below are met:

"Flues on the rear or side elevation of the building are allowed to a maximum of one metre above the highest part of the roof"

for full details see the link]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300572#Comment_300572 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300572#Comment_300572 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 08:56:04 +0000 Jonti http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300574#Comment_300574 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300574#Comment_300574 Fri, 03 Mar 2023 09:37:55 +0000 bogal2 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300601#Comment_300601 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300601#Comment_300601 Sat, 04 Mar 2023 21:35:43 +0000 Mike1 Posted By: JontiDoes permitted development apply for new builds within the first 2 years?Pretty sure it does, unless the original planning permission specifically limited permitted development rights (which the LA is only supposed to do for a justifiable reason).]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300608#Comment_300608 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300608#Comment_300608 Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:42:53 +0000 Jonti
I just questioned it as I worked on a new build a couple of years back where the owners decides they wanted to add solar panels to it thinking it would be okay under permitted development rules. When they mentioned it in passing to the planning officer they were informed that it would need an amended planning application unless they waited for two years after it was signed off when it would indeed be allowed under permitted development.

Now this is in Scotland so maybe it is different elsewhere in the country or may have changed even here.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300609#Comment_300609 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300609#Comment_300609 Sun, 05 Mar 2023 14:57:39 +0000 WillInAberdeen
My former neighbour lived in a trad barn conversion, to which they could not subsequently add a big stainless/glass porch thing because they had no PD rights and the council would not approve further development.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300630#Comment_300630 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17759&Focus=300630#Comment_300630 Mon, 06 Mar 2023 23:23:26 +0000 Dominic Cooney Posted By: bogal2It’s also not on the elevations on the planning application. Presumably you can’t just throw in a chimney after the event??

There is a distinction here and a few things to be considered.
1. Was the chimney on the approved plans? if not, and it was put on at the time of constructing the house, then the house has not been constructed in accordance with the approved plans.
2. PD rights may have been removed by a condition on the Decision Notice granting planning permission for the house. The wording of that condition usually starts: "notwithstanding the provisions of the Town & Country Planning..." and then lists the Classes of PD that are removed/restricted e.g. A,B,C,D to be thorough it should also cover Part 14 but rarely does.
3. PD rights only kick in once the house is completed and occupied i.e. actually in use as a house, So even if PD rights are intact the chimney would have to have been installed after occupation, to be lawful.
4. given that it is usually PD, would the Council consider it expedient to pursue enforcement? The most that is likely to be achieved is to make them apply for respective Planning Permission to formally regularise the situation.
5. we know from the very long thread about smoke nuisance that the recourse is through Environmental Health department but they are slow/unwilling to act.

I would check 1,2 and 3 first but I fully expect it will have to end up at 5 to get anything done about it.]]>