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Politics: Global warming swindle or real?

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    • CommentAuthorjoe.e
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    I'm not about to step in and defend American foreign policy over the last century, but there have been a few little skirmishes that they didn't cause. Two world wars, for example.
    • CommentAuthorAlbert
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    One and a half -- the Japanese bit of WW2 was triggered by US embargoes IIRC.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008 edited
     
    True, up to 1939, America could trust Europe to cause all the mayhem. But then having funded the allied effort by loan, and taken payment in the form of most of Britain's vastly dominant worldwide commercial interests, America was one of only two players left standing by the end of WW2, and so eventually inherited the World Empire.
    • CommentAuthorjoe.e
    • CommentTimeMay 15th 2008
     
    Posted By: AlbertOne and a half -- the Japanese bit of WW2 was triggered by US embargoes IIRC.

    Well, up to a point; Japan had been in a profoundly militaristic, imperialist mode since the end of the 19th century - the war with China in 1894, and with Russia in 1904, then with China through the '30's. They thought of themselves as an emerging world power, and that the Pacific was their natural territory, in the same way that Germany though of Eastern Europe as their destined lebensraum. That was always going to end in conflict with America.
    Posted By: fostertomTrue, up to 1939, America could trust Europe to cause all the mayhem. But then having funded the allied effort by loan, and taken payment in the form of most of Britain's vastly dominant worldwide commercial interests, America was one of only two players left standing by the end of WW2, and so eventually inherited the World Empire.

    Yes - the then American administration were quite explicit about the opportunity that the war offered to end the British Empire. It was more or less the price of entering the European war. But I'm not convinced that America has been the root of all evil since - humans have always been prone to war and idiocy, everywhere, always. America is just very big and rich, so they have been able to afford to do more stupid stuff. Still, not long too go for them now. Bankruptcy and isolationism loom, in my opinion, in an oil-deprived world. Although, as someone mentioned earlier on this forum, Americans do seem to be able to really turn things around when the urge takes them.
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    The US has been playing the game since at least before the 20th century

    Smedley Darlington Butler (July 30, 1881 – June 21, 1940), nicknamed "The Fighting Quaker" and "Old Gimlet Eye," was a Major General in the U.S. Marine Corps and, at the time of his death, the most decorated Marine in U.S. history.

    "I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents."
    • CommentAuthorjoe.e
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Great quote!
    • CommentAuthorbiffvernon
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    Prizes for thread drift?
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    I thought it had come full circle quite nicely myself, the same people are still manipulating the masses, this time over global warming.

    global carbon tax and nuclear power (weapons)anyone?
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeMay 16th 2008
     
    What a quote - where's it from? A book?
    Posted By: joe.enot convinced that America has been the root of all evil since
    Not all of it, but whatever they (and we, as their relatively insignificant best friend/faithful steward first in line for the scraps) touch it's far more catastrophic than the age-old tribal/warlord scraps have always been.

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