Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:35:15 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300974#Comment_300974 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300974#Comment_300974 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 00:17:39 +0100 mitchino
It all sounds great, we'd love to wean ourselves off kerosene, but have so far baulked at the cost and limitations of heat pumps etc, but how great is HVO? Greenwash or Hogwash, the future or a dead duck? Pros and Cons please!]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300975#Comment_300975 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300975#Comment_300975 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:16:22 +0100 Peter_in_Hungary
If you have to convert your boiler can the boiler be easily converted back should HVO follow the same path as wood pellets?]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300976#Comment_300976 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300976#Comment_300976 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 08:16:58 +0100 PeterStarck http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300977#Comment_300977 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=300977#Comment_300977 Tue, 28 Mar 2023 09:06:26 +0100 WillInAberdeen
So even if the HVO people are using sustainable waste oil, the knock-on is more deforestation somewhere else further down in the chain.

When I looked, the 'sustainable waste oil' was coming in supertankers from the far East and it was rather murky how anyone could tell if it really was waste, or sustainable.

I'd stay with kerosene, save the extra money up, and put it towards a heatpump or buy shares in a windfarm (or buy carbon offsets or donate it to WWF, whatever feels right!)]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=301008#Comment_301008 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17797&Focus=301008#Comment_301008 Wed, 29 Mar 2023 15:27:34 +0100 SteveZ
One item about HVO is the shelf life. Unlike kerosene which tends to grow things in it after a year or so, this stuff has a shelf life of years without any deterioration apparently. I wish my oil would stay in the tank long enough to try it.

I was told that the essential mods are to the jet and the operating pressure - so far, so cheap. Then the need for a new oil tank! Why? Clean the old one out and reuse it. Don't know the reason for a new tank.

HVO is not seen as long term solution, but a low carbon holding answer for oil users until the next big thing arrives, possibly better ASHPs, Hydrogen for lorries, sodium batteries for cars etc.

The latest Propane refrigerant heat pumps are looking like an easier replacement the domestic oil boiler market.

HVO could go the way of the wood pellet farce, I suppose, but we might have developed enough sense to avoid it - what an optimist!]]>