Green Building Forum - Name for fat base of wall Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:41:15 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299674#Comment_299674 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299674#Comment_299674 Mon, 16 Jan 2023 20:24:43 +0000 wookey
Is there a name for the bulge on the sort of wall that is wider at the bottom, typically the bottom 0.5-1m, usually on fairly old buildings? Any of: the wall-type, the bulge itself, or the shelf/slope on top?

Most bits of buildings have names, but I just failed to find one for this.]]>
Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299678#Comment_299678 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299678#Comment_299678 Mon, 16 Jan 2023 23:03:56 +0000 tony Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299679#Comment_299679 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299679#Comment_299679 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 02:17:12 +0000 wookey https://www.pamphilonarchitects.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/AP01_Clunch-House-Cambridge_01.jpg

I am impressed though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entasis]]>
Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299680#Comment_299680 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299680#Comment_299680 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 07:30:57 +0000 fostertom
Entasis in columns - the column's smooth curve actually bulges a bit to a max about quarter way up from bottom, then continues to curve in to a smaller diameter at top. The ancient Greeks did it that way because to the eye that's what made a column look straight and vertical, at a time when 'straight-and-vertical' had hardly even been invented! (because it doesn't exist in nature). The columns also leaned in at the corners - only the middle column was actually vertical. And all its 'horizontal' lines weren't actually straight but curved to droop at the corners. That's why modern attempts at posh 'Greek' porticos etc, ignorant of such subtleties to make it look subjectively right, often simply look naff.]]>
Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299682#Comment_299682 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299682#Comment_299682 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:15:54 +0000 Peter_in_Hungary Maybe something to do with foundations since the increased thickness continues into the ground (by at least 30cm in my case).]]> Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299685#Comment_299685 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299685#Comment_299685 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:30:11 +0000 PeterStarck
https://fet.uwe.ac.uk/conweb/house_ages/elements/print.htm]]>
Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299686#Comment_299686 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299686#Comment_299686 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:33:23 +0000 Peter_in_Hungary Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299687#Comment_299687 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299687#Comment_299687 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 08:38:55 +0000 PeterStarck Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryCould be - except the stepped footing have the steps below ground whereas the picture wookey posted has the step above ground

Ahh, well in that case I think Tom has it with plinth.]]>
Name for fat base of wall http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299690#Comment_299690 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17699&Focus=299690#Comment_299690 Tue, 17 Jan 2023 11:01:01 +0000 owlman I think in your case these walls used to be termed buttressed or battered walls. Frequently used in retaining walls or tall chimney stacks, but sometimes used for aesthetic purposed to give the impression of greater stability.

For Wookey;
A Victorian farmhouse near me has such walls in brick. Built on a gradient with the wider bit varying from about 400mm to 650mm above ground level. The base/wider bit is " I think " class B engineering brick and the top course reduction being shaped Plinth stretchers, occasionally called cant bricks; ( Tom is right I think ).
Sometimes much wider base structure is obtained over more courses by a process called "tumbling in" e.g. external chimney stacks.]]>