Green Building Forum - unregistered pv Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:18:00 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301139#Comment_301139 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301139#Comment_301139 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 11:53:48 +0100 tychwarel I have just found out that the G98 registration was not done and the installer is no longer trading.
I have found the partially filled in forms, however since the installation WPD our local network provider have become part of National Grid.
I cannot find how to do a G98 registration on their new website.
Any advice on how to proceed would be appreciated.]]>
unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301142#Comment_301142 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301142#Comment_301142 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 13:43:17 +0100 djh https://www.nationalgrid.co.uk/g98-applications and if you don't understand then apparently 0800 096 3080 is the number to call. Maybe https://connections.nationalgrid.co.uk/g98-connection-procedures is relevant as well (second hit)]]> unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301144#Comment_301144 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301144#Comment_301144 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 14:43:57 +0100 philedge
If you can't find where to send the notification, just send it recorded delivery to their head office not forgetting to include a single line drawing of the house electrics showing where the PV is connected.]]>
unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301145#Comment_301145 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301145#Comment_301145 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 16:27:27 +0100 tychwarel unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301147#Comment_301147 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301147#Comment_301147 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 18:48:37 +0100 philedge
If youre adding batteries just put in the G99 (fastrack?) application as that will cover existing PV and the new batteries]]>
unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301148#Comment_301148 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301148#Comment_301148 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 19:27:37 +0100 revor unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301149#Comment_301149 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301149#Comment_301149 Sat, 08 Apr 2023 21:21:13 +0100 philedge unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301159#Comment_301159 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301159#Comment_301159 Mon, 10 Apr 2023 07:38:53 +0100 revor Posted By: philedgeMCS and the DNO are not linked. The DNO isn't bothered whether the install is MCS or not, they're interested that the kit you connect to the grid meets their standard's and what the max you can export is. If the battery you add is AC coupled and capable of exporting, its the max possible combined export capacity the DNO wants to know about. If the OPs new battery can export 3.6kw and the PV inverter can do 3kw thats an export total of 6.6kw and theyd definitely want to know about that.

What controls the export is the inverter. What ASFAIU the DNO is interested in is the Manufacturers declaration of conformity according to recommendation G100 "Technical Requirement for customer export limiting schemes". This is the case for all inverters capable of exporting more than 3.6 kw and maybe for those smaller. That conformity details how the limit is controlled. Some are controlled by a clamp on the meter incoming tails others as with my inverter via a systems meter which measures the export and is controlled by the inverter software accessible via an installer password. As an example my inverter is 6kw and have 6kw of panels. The export limit was set by the software and 3.64 Kw until May last year when my limit allowed was raised to 5kw and simply done via the software. If tychwarel is going to fit a battery then he will need some new inverter arrangement and it is that which will control his export regardless of the source of the generation. In my opinion if a battery is to be fitted I would do the whole job and submit a new DNO application rather than try and put right what was not done properly 1st time.]]>
unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301165#Comment_301165 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301165#Comment_301165 Mon, 10 Apr 2023 16:51:04 +0100 philedge Posted By: revor

What controls the export is the inverter.

That's correct if batteries are DC coupled and connected to the existing PV inverter. If the batteries are AC coupled, then its the batteries inverter that limits the batteries export, which is in addition to the existing PV. As mentioned previously that could easily take him way over the 16amp(3.68kw) G98 limit.

G100 is used where the DNO wants you to limit the output of an inverter to less than its type tested output. If you seek permission for a 6kw inverter to operate at 6kw then G100 doesnt come into play. The DNO is interested in the inverters rating on the type test declaration]]>
unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301166#Comment_301166 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301166#Comment_301166 Mon, 10 Apr 2023 19:48:54 +0100 tychwarel Thanks for the advice. I will probably talk to the battery installers and get them to sort it.]]> unregistered pv http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301181#Comment_301181 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=17809&Focus=301181#Comment_301181 Wed, 12 Apr 2023 09:06:14 +0100 philedge Posted By: tychwarelI will probably talk to the battery installers and get them to sort it.
Given that you and I have both had suppliers seemingly not do the paperwork correctly, you might want to take on the paper work yourself. If they're DC coupled batteries theres a fair chance you just need to submit a G98 notification. If they are AC coupled then likely a G99 application is needed. Battery installer should be able to tell you what they are proposing.]]>