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Renewable Energy: Taxing the Sun

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    • CommentAuthorjamesingram
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2013 edited
     
    following on from this thread with a slightly more PC title.
    http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/forum114/comments.php?DiscussionID=11066&page=1#Item_0
    Spain’s sunshine toll: Row over proposed solar tax
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24272061

    "We will be the only country in the world charging for the use of the sun,"
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2013
     
    I wonder if they (the Spanish Government) would be thinking of this if there was not a FITs scheme.
    Distributed generation does have a costs to the DNO. Not sure if the DNO's can pass this cost on to the generation companies or not (either here or in Spain).
    Somewhere a price has to be paid, just a matter of how much and by who really.
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    This is why most governments are fudging the green energy issue and apparently doing such a bad job at implementing anything meaningful. They don't want people/households being energy independent, full stop.
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeOct 7th 2013
     
    Meanwhile back in the States:

    http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/green-building-news/wisconsin-electric-cooperative-jolts-passivhaus-owner
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2013 edited
     
    'he will no longer receive the retail rate for power generated by his 4.52 kW PVPhotovoltaics. Generation of electricity directly from sunlight. A photovoltaic (PV) cell has no moving parts; electrons are energized by sunlight and result in current flow. system. Instead, the cooperative is prepared to pay the "avoided cost" of the electricity, which is based on the cost to the utility of buying or generating the power.

    The policy change, which was announced in May, will have the effect of lowering payments to Konkol and other cooperative customers with PV systems from 10 or 11 cents per kWh to between 2.75 and 3.75 cents per kWh'

    Seems reasonable to me, and actually pretty similar to the UK rate, whether by coincidence or not.

    '"It isn't fair," [the owner] said. "I would argue it's the other way around, that we're subsidizing the cooperative."'

    I don't understand that assertion and the journalist doesn't explain what justifies it.
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeOct 8th 2013
     
    It is fairly obvious from the article that standing charges do not cover the supplier's fixed costs. The retail price per kWh, however, seems to be up to 3x the marginal cost of generating a kWh.

    Arguably this is a 'green' tariff structure since it gives consumers an incentive to use energy sparingly. Presumably they didn't expect any consumer to generate as much electricity as they use.

    I can't see how this customer is 'subsidising' the cooperative except possibly by helping them to meet some kind of 'renewables obligation'.

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