Tue, 19 Dec 2023 05:42:34 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124162#Comment_124162 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124162#Comment_124162 Mon, 28 Nov 2011 11:55:37 +0000 RobinB
Have any of you take this course - I'd love to know your experience - it's offered at BRE, Strathclyde Uni, Dublin and I'm not sure where else?

Feel free to whisper if more appropriate.

many thanks

RobinB]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124261#Comment_124261 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124261#Comment_124261 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 10:42:21 +0000 RobinB http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124274#Comment_124274 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124274#Comment_124274 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 11:30:42 +0000 SteamyTea http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124285#Comment_124285 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124285#Comment_124285 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 12:06:38 +0000 RobinB
It's PassivHaus institute. It looks useful but I don't want to spend 2k-ish on a "load of old rubbish" so I was hoping some on here might have experience.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124291#Comment_124291 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124291#Comment_124291 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:05:55 +0000 Joiner
Just go through all Viking House's past postings and get it all for nothing more than some well-spent time. ]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124294#Comment_124294 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124294#Comment_124294 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 13:18:14 +0000 RobinB
So the idea of being "certified" is definitely not cutting any ice with you lot!

Really, having built our house quasi-passiv I guess I'm looking for a sensible way to effectively demonstrate what I do know and fill in the gaps asap.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124301#Comment_124301 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124301#Comment_124301 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 14:22:32 +0000 DamonHD
Indeed I'm nominally a domain expert (and been on standards committees) in one area, and I doubt I'd pass some of the standard certs in that area.

Rgds

Damon]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124305#Comment_124305 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124305#Comment_124305 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 15:09:31 +0000 James Norton
Notwithstanding a certified Passiv Haus is in my view quite a way up the slope of diminishing returns and so worthy an ambition it may be (in some respects), the really useful thing PHI have done (in a Top Shop-rather-than-Catwalk kind of way) is the Passiv Haus Planning Package.

Therefore if you are really interested in PH but not being certified... ...I would suggest you get hold of a pucka copy of PHPP which comes with quite a thick, (if not entirely intelligible) manual and work your way through it starting with your own house, ~£200.

A background/training in SAP might be helpful but again technically to provide SAPs for compliance etc requires you to be an accredited competent person; with ~£1k training; although you may be able to get part funding, Enhancement for Skills Fund etc. Although again to start with get the books and software (FSAP, free from Stroma; book from DECC)

J]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124322#Comment_124322 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124322#Comment_124322 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:38:16 +0000 RobinB http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124324#Comment_124324 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124324#Comment_124324 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:53:21 +0000 MarkBennett Posted By: James Nortonthe really useful thing PHI have done (in a Top Shop-rather-than-Catwalk kind of way) is the Passiv Haus Planning Package.

Therefore if you are really interested in PH but not being certified... ...I would suggest you get hold of a pucka copy of PHPP which comes with quite a thick, (if not entirely intelligible) manual and work your way through it starting with your own house, ~£200.

Fully agree.

You probably also want to join the AECB at support/individual member level to get access to the relevant forums. This is pretty much the only way to get support in the UK for questions on modelling. It's relatively cheap in the scheme of things (especially compared to a £2k course).]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124326#Comment_124326 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124326#Comment_124326 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 16:56:32 +0000 RobinB
thanks

Robin]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124340#Comment_124340 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124340#Comment_124340 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:19:10 +0000 Viking House http://www.passivehouseacademy.com/index.html]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124342#Comment_124342 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124342#Comment_124342 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 18:26:25 +0000 Joiner http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124362#Comment_124362 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124362#Comment_124362 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 20:14:39 +0000 ali.gill
http://www.carbonlite.org.uk/carbonlite/course_detail.php?cId=15
http://www.passivhaus.org.uk/page.jsp?id=24

whether the cost can be justified in terms of return on investment remains to be seen.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124389#Comment_124389 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124389#Comment_124389 Tue, 29 Nov 2011 23:35:54 +0000 sinnerboy Posted By: Viking HouseSinnerboy who contributes here, did the course in the PassiveHouse Academy in Wicklow and he's happy he did,http://www.passivehouseacademy.com/index.html" rel="nofollow" >http://www.passivehouseacademy.com/index.html

Indeed. I did attempt to use PHPP and manual before taking the training and to be honest found it not a little intimidating. The course was quite intense with a lot of content. You need to have your Weetabix and pay full attention every day. Not everyone passed the exam. For me it helped to gel together all the concepts of fabric losses , ventilation losses , thermal bridging , solar gains etc . We didn't simply open up the software , take measurements from drawings and input into the software ( i.e. how I was trained to do BER certs / use DEAP ( EPC certs / use SAP in UK ). In fact we only used PHPP less than 10% of the time. We spent a day devoted to windows , another to ventilation another to economics etc. A really good aspect of the Wicklow course was a visit to Tomas O'leary's house - the 1st Certified in Ireland. Nothing like seeing a real life example.

So when I completed the training - the PHPP and all it's demands for inputs was much less intimidating.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124400#Comment_124400 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124400#Comment_124400 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 01:37:48 +0000 ali.gill Outlay is similar to the BREEAM New Construction 2011 4day course (3days + exam day)
http://www.breeam.org/eventdetails.jsp?id=5465
So it would be interesting to hear which way people would swing - BREEAM Assessor or Passivhaus Consultant ?]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124426#Comment_124426 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124426#Comment_124426 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 10:47:25 +0000 RobinB
cheers
RobinB]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124491#Comment_124491 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124491#Comment_124491 Wed, 30 Nov 2011 18:17:31 +0000 sinnerboy
In my case the cost of the course + exam was €2400.00 . It's less now . I charge €800.00 per PHPP / DEAP analysis ( I assess a design using PHPP and DEAP ( SAP in UK ) so that a B regs check is made together with the PHPP analysis. ( It is possible to build a certified Passive House and not comply with Irish b regs ! )

I include 3 wall types usually and include a circa 2 hour face to face with each client. The first 2 or 3 took me
about a week to prepare and you would need a fairly constant workload to to pick up and maintain proficiency. So far I've done about 4 assessment in 18 months ! covered my training fee is all. Bear in mind the construction industry in on it's knees in Ireland so with a reduced training fee and hopefully brisker market in the UK one may recover costs quicker.

A typical client will have received planning permission and seek PHPP/DEAP analysis to optimise their build spec. So far no one has asked to go "all the way" ( snigger , snigger ) to PHI certified.

Robin - if you do make it over - the first pint's on me ]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124596#Comment_124596 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124596#Comment_124596 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:53:38 +0000 RobinB RobinB]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124600#Comment_124600 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124600#Comment_124600 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:13:14 +0000 SteamyTea ]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124602#Comment_124602 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124602#Comment_124602 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:19:54 +0000 Joiner

Good luck Robin.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124617#Comment_124617 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124617#Comment_124617 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 13:22:50 +0000 RobinB ]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124647#Comment_124647 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124647#Comment_124647 Thu, 01 Dec 2011 14:39:11 +0000 Viking House http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124789#Comment_124789 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124789#Comment_124789 Fri, 02 Dec 2011 00:30:39 +0000 ali.gill Being in South Wales I'm eligible to claim up to £1500 or 50% of the course fees through GoWales and I think the figures were similar for the Enhancement for Skills Fund in Yorkshire that James Norton mentioned above.
I don't think the location where the course takes place affects eligibility.]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124939#Comment_124939 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124939#Comment_124939 Sat, 03 Dec 2011 00:53:38 +0000 RobinB http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124941#Comment_124941 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=124941#Comment_124941 Sat, 03 Dec 2011 07:01:34 +0000 Joiner ]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128322#Comment_128322 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128322#Comment_128322 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 14:19:37 +0000 RobinB
On the plus side Father Christmas (well me really) has been v. kind. I've got a little Macbook, the PHPP planning package and even Office for Mac for fear of spoiling the ship for a tuppence of tar.

Travel is booked, all I need now is a few euros and to find a B & B - any suggestions near Ballyfermot, Dublin?

Maybe I should add this old bird can't really drink more than a pint or two.

RobinB]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128358#Comment_128358 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128358#Comment_128358 Mon, 02 Jan 2012 17:54:59 +0000 SteamyTea

Better look up what the SF has to offer, do you have a link to them?]]> http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128430#Comment_128430 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128430#Comment_128430 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 09:42:15 +0000 RobinB http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128441#Comment_128441 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=8183&Focus=128441#Comment_128441 Tue, 03 Jan 2012 10:58:43 +0000 SteamyTea
SF=Skills Fund]]>