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Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthortango996
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2008 edited
     
    Hi, I have recently got planning permission for a single storey extenstion off the existing kitchen. We want to make it a continuation of the kitchen / breakfast room, as it is at the rear of the house and backs onto the neighbours we thought no windows we will just go for french doors to the side into garden and a glass panelled roof. We are now struggling to get the glass to conform and acheive required U values, roof dimentions approx 8.5 meters wide and length of pitch approx 4meters eacg panel would be about 600mm wide ? Can we use triple glazed argon filled glass if so where to source it and get required data. Would appreciate any comments regards gary.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2008 edited
     
    Wont you be cold and loose a lot of heat through it and overheat in summer?

    Toughened outer stepped bigger, then normal then laminated inner -- any local glazier will get it for you.
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    I can't see that you could possibly get a glazed roof to conform. Your roof should achieve 0.16. Super-fan-dabby-dozie triple-glazed-argon-filled-with-knobs-on may achieve a little more than 1.0 if the frame does not let you down (it may).

    Can someone else comment - is there a loophole I have missed? Even if there is, I'd advise don't do it. Veluxes yes - complete glass roof, no!
    • CommentAuthorludite
    • CommentTimeNov 16th 2008
     
    Glass roofed extensions sound like conservatories. As Tony says, you are likely to sweat in summer and freeze in winter.

    I have been advised to opt for a 'garden room' instead, which has a roof but mostly glazed on all sides. Even so, we are still planning to be able to close the room off from the rest of the cottage (and leave it unheated) - due to the expense - to the environment -of heating it.
    • CommentAuthorTheDoctor
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    avoid an all glass roof, and just strategically place well proportioned roof lights. these are available in triple glazing.

    then you actually have some roof as well, which you can insulate to the hilt.
    all glass will be quite a glare, and if you end up having blinds across it, it is achieving nothing except heat loss.

    It is a bit of a misnomer to use super efficient materials to achieve average results, rather than using super efficient materials to achieve efficient results (that can still be aesthetically stunning)

    I have whispered you a manufacturer that i used
    • CommentAuthorMatt
    • CommentTimeNov 17th 2008
     
    We looked into this - a 2m wide, 4.5m long pitched glazed roof, supported on two rafters.

    A few problems:
    No-one would install the glazing - the chances of breaking them were too high....
    You cannot get panels of high enough performance (as Nick says)
    So we would end up with a roof that:
    Cost silly money
    Leaked heat in winter
    Glare/overheat problems in summer (we are south facing)

    We ended up with a roof with two large roof lights, and a big ol' depth of XPS boards rammed in, for about half the cost.
    Aesthetically, it its still fine as we have glazed french doors with a nice view of the garden....
    • CommentAuthorArnold
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2008
     
    I intend to build a Rear Porch which I understand can be 3mtrs long plus other dimensions which I will not exceed.

    I am wanting to build something that has a height of 8.5ft or 2600 next to the old window of middle room (terrace house) now a door.
    That slopes down to 7ft or 2130, it will be a maximum of 4.5ft or 1360 wide.

    can anyone advise me of possible designs for such a building, I have acquired the timber to make the frame but am I correct in thinking to comply with building regs It will need to be fully insulated in order to have a couple of velux's on roof and a glazed door.

    What sort of floor will it need I was thinking of placing insulted board on top of the concrete slabs that form the existing path.

    look forward to any reply

    arnold
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeDec 26th 2008
     
    A porch (if indeed it is a porch) is exempt from building regs -- nice present for you there.:smile:
    • CommentAuthorTerry
    • CommentTimeDec 30th 2008
     
    With such a small footprint, it seems a bit awkward to shoe horn a couple of velux's into the roof. Would a couple of windows not suffice, thereby getting enough light, simplifying the roof construction and significantly improving the thermal performance.
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeJan 14th 2009
     
    Go to the Pilkington site and download the small piece of software that will allow you to put in any configuration and type of glass, it'll give you the full performance figures.
    • CommentAuthorrodhague
    • CommentTimeJul 14th 2010
     
    Hello there,

    I am planning to cove an existing pool to link to seperate buildings. This ovrly large corridor will link a living area to a bedroom area. Traditioanly pool coverings are made of glass so as to create the greenhouse effect and help heat the pool.

    I am wonering if my logic is right in thinking that if i have proper exterior doors that join this 'cooridor to the two seperate areas would they in winter benefit from daytime heating by this greenhouse? I have heard of people using their conservatories as a winter 'solar gain' collector during the day and then closing them off at night.

    Any thoughts and comments appreciated.
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    Beware high humidity!
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeJul 15th 2010
     
    Exterior grade doors might be a requirement of the Building Regs. Otherwise it might be treated as a habitable room and you would have to meet part L. That's tricky or impossible with a lot of glass. Exterior grade doors may allow it to be treated as a conservatory instead.
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