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Posted By: djhNote that AIUI if you use a non-MCS installer then you won't get the grant.
Posted By: WillInAberdeenISTR if not done by MCS then you need approval by planning or building control, can't remember which.Planning I believe - MCS-020 again.
Posted By: ArtiglioHaving got involved in a pellet boiler using rhi and an mcs installer, i’ll be very wary of getting involved in anything similar again. I’d rather wait 10 years for the industry to mature and the cowboys to have left the range before looking to change.
Posted By: BarnacleWhat the installers told me re VAT: not charged on the ASHP and HW tank. It does get charged on upsized radiators and their pipes.
The different installers disagreed on whether undersized rads HAD to be upsized or whether that was only a "recommendation" that the home owner could ignore - I was told that the final terms of the BUS aren't quite ready yet.
Posted By: SimonDI find it very worrying that so-called installers are making these kinds of claims/statements.I find it more worrying that government haven't specified the rules clearly enough that installers and customers know the right answer (whatever that is) without having to think too hard.
Posted By: SimonDThat seems completely wrong to me. The VAT rules apply to any worked required.My experience is installers often do not understand VAT. One tradesman I know adds VAT to the VAT inclusive price he paid! His response when I tried to explain input/output VAT, "well the VAT man has never compained"! I buy everything he needs!
Posted By: WillInAberdeenSeems clear to me.That whole document seems like an overcomplicated muddle to me. It's not clear whether those examples apply everywhere or only in Northern Ireland, for example. The immediately preceding examples about roofs and insulation make it obvious how muddled the whole approach is.
Posted By: WillInAberdeenThe bit that I quoted is clear about GB versus NI (last line) (this because of NI's status re EU Single Market).Yes, it has to have that last bit precisely because it introduced the confusion in the first place. And even then you have to read carefully to the end to find it.
The preceding paragraphs which I didn't quote, explain the only criteria is whether the radiators are "ancillary" to the ASHP which means they are "a better means of enjoying" it.So you say, and you may be right, but why then does the example include all the confounding factors instead of just making clear what you state?
There's no restriction on whether they are itemised, and they don't have to be necessary, or recommended, and the customer's opinion is not relevant to the VAT people. The rads just have to make the heat pump "better" to be eligible for zero VAT.
Barnacle, another consideration is decommissioning your existing boiler, removing the flue, removing the underground gas supply and meter - is probably not in the quotes.Barnacle, with regard to disconnecting gas, the situation is a little complicated and you may want to read https://octopus.energy/blog/disconnecting-your-gas-supply/ to understand the responsibilities and practicalities a little better. It's not your ASHP installer that does it all.
Posted By: djhPosted By: SimonDI find it very worrying that so-called installers are making these kinds of claims/statements.I find it more worrying that government haven't specified the rules clearly enough that installers and customers know the right answer (whatever that is) without having to think too hard.
But I can't say I'm surprised :(
Posted By: WillInAberdeenDon't think it needs that much thought? The example covers the most common situation.