Green Building Forum - Stonehenge! Tue, 19 Dec 2023 05:53:00 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Stonehenge! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=273080#Comment_273080 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=273080#Comment_273080 Wed, 27 Mar 2019 21:41:07 +0000 jon
Sorry haven't contributed much to forum for last few years

Here's a twitter thread describing how things have gone so far. GBB gets a mention right at the start. I've done this from a tweet that the Institution of Civil Engineers retweeted (if only to show that it's real and not some just made up twitter thread)

https://twitter.com/ICE_SEEngland/status/1110648724672385025]]>
Stonehenge! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=290934#Comment_290934 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=290934#Comment_290934 Mon, 09 Aug 2021 15:05:37 +0100 jon
The project started as a low embodied carbon shell structure (2006), became a renewable energy device (2008), morphed into Stonehenge when it was found all the details appeared to correspond (2010). All of that started in GBF and eventually became the 2013 edition of the book.

The geocentric hypothesis postulates that Stonehenge and its grounds were a repository of knowledge of heavens brought about by:
1) a fear of a change in climate
2) a wish to rationally understand the world and the cosmos

It was presented to Neolithic Studies Group (a loose knit academic grouping) about two months ago because it is possible to use the hypothesis to predict where materials came from. So far, those predictions are correct but reference established Neolithic sites. The 2020 version of the book (A Neolithic universe) published in advance of some rock sampling that was being undertaken (the two main falsifiable predictions revolve around locations close to Welsh sites of Cerrig Lladron, near Cwmcerwyn and also Pen y Fan). Sampling at Cerrig Lladron due to be undertaken in next month or so (one or more universities undertaking that work but extent of investigations, near a place called Waun Mawn, are unknown).

Tweeting this subject again because, if this can be proven, it provides a potential 'unifying' focus for calls to action at Glasgow (shifting focus away from Nationalistic interpretations of ancient monuments and substituting that with a 'green' focus). Predictions given at Neolithic Studies Group meeting but, unfortunately, the video of that conference appears to have been lost to the cloud.

Bonkers it may sound, but there's now a collection of archaeologists, geologists and others involved in one way of the other.

If any interest, the best contact (or follow) is at https://twitter.com/aneolithicuni]]>
Stonehenge! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=290936#Comment_290936 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=290936#Comment_290936 Mon, 09 Aug 2021 15:53:05 +0100 djh Stonehenge! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=290937#Comment_290937 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=290937#Comment_290937 Mon, 09 Aug 2021 16:26:46 +0100 jon
There's masses of threads devoted to it on The Megalithic Portal (mysteries section). However, it would take far too long for anyone to work through them all.

The "Stones" section of the Portal discusses the NSG meeting here:
https://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=8634&forum=1

NSG has an open page on Facebook, and that describes some of the works being looked at (a bit out of date now, but gives a flavour)
https://www.facebook.com/groups/456791754406157/permalink/2944437578974883

If seriously interested, the only 'proper' source for information is the book, though it's purpose is largely to build the case for investigation, so it's quite technical
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Neolithic-Universe-Jonathan-M-Morris/dp/0956861733
(the Megalithic Portal review of the book is here: https://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=2146414582 )]]>
Stonehenge! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=291174#Comment_291174 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=291174#Comment_291174 Wed, 18 Aug 2021 23:12:03 +0100 jamesingram Stonehenge! http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=303199#Comment_303199 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16079&Focus=303199#Comment_303199 Sun, 10 Sep 2023 16:07:53 +0100 jon
Back in '21, I mentioned Cerrig Lladron. At the time, there was a TV program with Alice Roberts and Mike Parker Pearson investigating a place called Waun Mawn; which they thought was a "Proto Stonehenge" and that Stonehenge's stones had originally been placed there. They hadn't investigated Cerrig Lladron so I sent the geologists a few photos of the outcrop and where to find it.

Anyway, it turned out that Maun Waun's stones came from Cerrig Lladron and not Stonehenge (which I'd mentioned at the NSG presentation). So the team had to retract some the ideas in the TV program.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S2352409X2200219X

Got told that "nobody likes a smart arse" for that (he was jesting). So the next stage was to present at the Neolithic Studies group conference again (this time going through some of the other details and how that all comes together).

There's only one prediction that would be a 'slam dunk' for all this. But I haven't heard anything and the geologists tend to keep everything very quiet until they're ready to publish.

So not much more to tell.]]>