Green Building Forum - Non Chinese Battery storage Tue, 19 Dec 2023 08:20:25 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281246#Comment_281246 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281246#Comment_281246 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:05:25 +0100 revor The proposal for my install all comes from China. I can source panels and inverters from elsewhere even though it will cost me more but batteries is another matter. Been trawling through potential suppliers but to some extent or another have cells made in China. Does anyone have some leads I can check out.]]> Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281252#Comment_281252 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281252#Comment_281252 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 10:48:31 +0100 djh Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281263#Comment_281263 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281263#Comment_281263 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 12:55:50 +0100 Doubting_Thomas
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/industry/tesla-linked-new-uk-gigafactory-somerset

Also, I think much of the "havoc created worldwide" is probably due to the culture in quite a lot of other so called advanced countries, but I appreciate the effort to avoid contributing to the economy of an authoritarian regime.

https://solarfeeds.com/top-solar-panel-manufacturers-in-europe/]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281267#Comment_281267 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281267#Comment_281267 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 16:21:59 +0100 revor Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281274#Comment_281274 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281274#Comment_281274 Tue, 09 Jun 2020 17:25:18 +0100 Mike1 https://www.saftbatteries.com/media-resources/press-releases/launch-pilot-plant-manufacture-european-batteries-electric-vehicles]]> Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281312#Comment_281312 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281312#Comment_281312 Wed, 10 Jun 2020 20:06:30 +0100 jamesingram http://www.windandsun.co.uk/products/Batteries/Lithium-Ion-Batteries#.XuEu_tVKi0l]]> Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281322#Comment_281322 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281322#Comment_281322 Thu, 11 Jun 2020 10:52:05 +0100 dickster Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281326#Comment_281326 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=281326#Comment_281326 Thu, 11 Jun 2020 11:14:52 +0100 fostertom Posted By: jamesingramhave a word with Wind and SunTry Earth and Water, Wood and Stone and the Four Directions while you're at it!]]> Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282208#Comment_282208 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282208#Comment_282208 Tue, 14 Jul 2020 09:50:49 +0100 revor Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282212#Comment_282212 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282212#Comment_282212 Tue, 14 Jul 2020 11:00:05 +0100 fostertom Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282226#Comment_282226 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282226#Comment_282226 Tue, 14 Jul 2020 18:43:03 +0100 Jonti Yes, China is not the big enemy it is being portrayed as but if you are not concerned at the direction the leadership has been taking it in the last decade then your not looking properly. It is not pretty.]]> Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282241#Comment_282241 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282241#Comment_282241 Tue, 14 Jul 2020 22:14:16 +0100 fostertom
I agree China looks ugly as reported, but doesn't our principal 'ally' and protector also, and are we sure how UK looks, as reported to many parts of the world? Are we quite sure we are unique in not being sold a line, just like the Chinese and those others are about us?]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282247#Comment_282247 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282247#Comment_282247 Wed, 15 Jul 2020 01:42:49 +0100 djh
https://www.solarquotes.com.au/battery-storage/comparison-table/

https://batterytestcentre.com.au/reports/]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282248#Comment_282248 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282248#Comment_282248 Wed, 15 Jul 2020 07:17:41 +0100 Jonti Posted By: fostertomSo you believe that America is run by a benign, friendly regime which only wants to do good things for the rest of the world? Choose your dominatrix, if you must.

I agree China looks ugly as reported, but doesn't our principal 'ally' and protector also, and are we sure how UK looks, as reported to many parts of the world? Are we quite sure we are unique in not being sold a line, just like the Chinese and those others are about us?

I never mentioned the US nor is it being aggressive or benign relevant to the China issue. To answer your point, no the US is most definitely is not that benign but then neither is the EU to bring the other big player in to the conversation. What separates them all though is the US is not in the process of empire building where it has direct physical control of other states. The EU is doing this but is probably to inefficient to succeed much beyond its current format. China however is very much active in empire building and has the nous & muscle to do it. It is quite scary.]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282253#Comment_282253 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282253#Comment_282253 Wed, 15 Jul 2020 09:40:27 +0100 fostertom
Modern empires are are 'soft' empires, based on favours/bribes/investment, threats/economic attacks, cultural seduction (Hollywood), covert/political interference, trade agreements/corporate penetration often under duress but especially in China's case often beneficial. In that they're all pretty equal.

We're being encouraged by "what separates xyz from us (or the west, or USA) ..." logic, to selectively demonise xyz while forgetting about equivalent or worse nastiness in 'our' club. Even as we believe the biased information we're getting, to make such judgements.

I just say, let's not lazily swallow the propaganda we're being fed (even tho the people of the opposing empires are swallowing the contrary propaganda that they're being fed). It's designed to confuse and occupy all our energies, chasing red herrings, enjoying scapegoats and boycotts.

Rather than taking sides, even blindly patriotically, let's put our energies, our focus on the vast amount of non-mainstream information that's out there, to get a clearer view, then act thoughtfully, independently or having found others to ally with.]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282256#Comment_282256 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282256#Comment_282256 Wed, 15 Jul 2020 10:27:35 +0100 dickster
As China ramps up the slope of it's bell curve, I try to understand (not excuse) it's aggressive behaviour, but I feel there is a difference. They seem more inclined to buy rather than invade, I hope that this less murderous approach leaves my children and grandchildren in a safer place than my father and grandfather shared.

Sorting the wheat from the chaff regarding media coverage of the News of the World remains a tricky job.

Just my tuppence worth :)]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282259#Comment_282259 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282259#Comment_282259 Wed, 15 Jul 2020 11:55:44 +0100 barney
Not a nice bunch of lads, the Chinese - on many, many level - don't fall into the trap of believing much of what they do abroad as "beneficial".

I say this from the perspective of being a very small part of a very big plan to move several hundred million Chinese citizens from rural agriculture to industrialized cities over the last three decades - basically from feudal serfdom to industrialized slavery. It's been interesting to say the least.

Regards

Barney]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282268#Comment_282268 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282268#Comment_282268 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 08:27:34 +0100 Jonti
Apart from the lack of freedom of speech in China and the persecution of minorities of which the Uighurs are just one of many I doubt that the people of Tibet would be of your opinion about not building empire nor the people of Zambia or Sri Lanka. Nor the expansion and illegal construction of territory on the South China Sea. In regards to your last paragraph how do you know who is behind many of the posts about such subject?

Dickster,

when you talk about buy rather than invade do you mean like the East India Company? Maybe the their new naval base in Sri Lanka is the first step there.

The Chinese people are fine on the whole just like any other nationality but the Chinese government is a bully and the sooner people wake up to this the better.]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282924#Comment_282924 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282924#Comment_282924 Fri, 21 Aug 2020 08:32:32 +0100 revor Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282926#Comment_282926 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282926#Comment_282926 Fri, 21 Aug 2020 10:28:36 +0100 dickster
At least you tried :)]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282944#Comment_282944 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=282944#Comment_282944 Sat, 22 Aug 2020 13:59:14 +0100 revor I remember my boss saying to me when I had tried very hard to meet an objective set in my performance appraisal, to which he agreed it was a tough one that customers only pay on delivery and do not care how hard one tries. He was spot on.]]> Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283521#Comment_283521 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283521#Comment_283521 Thu, 24 Sep 2020 18:43:17 +0100 revor Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283526#Comment_283526 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283526#Comment_283526 Thu, 24 Sep 2020 20:38:02 +0100 djh Posted By: revorI have no redress against the company I bought from
They are the only people you DO have redress against! They are the people you have a contract with. You'll need to insist they complete the contract or refund your payment.]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283535#Comment_283535 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283535#Comment_283535 Fri, 25 Sep 2020 10:53:55 +0100 revor Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283542#Comment_283542 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283542#Comment_283542 Fri, 25 Sep 2020 13:12:25 +0100 philedge Posted By: revorJob on hold and weather deteriorating.

Delays are always frustrating especially when theres scope to avoid them but dont get too concerned about the weather as ours were installed in December without a hitch.

Hope the replacements turn up soon]]>
Non Chinese Battery storage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283544#Comment_283544 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=16595&Focus=283544#Comment_283544 Fri, 25 Sep 2020 14:05:15 +0100 revor