Home  5  Books  5  GBEzine  5  News  5  HelpDesk  5  Register  5  GreenBuilding.co.uk
Not signed in (Sign In)

Categories



Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
These two books are the perfect starting place to help you get to grips with one of the most vitally important aspects of our society - our homes and living environment.

PLEASE NOTE: A download link for Volume 1 will be sent to you by email and Volume 2 will be sent to you by post as a book.

Buy individually or both books together. Delivery is free!


powered by Surfing Waves




Vanilla 1.0.3 is a product of Lussumo. More Information: Documentation, Community Support.

Welcome to new Forum Visitors
Join the forum now and benefit from discussions with thousands of other green building fans and discounts on Green Building Press publications: Apply now.




    • CommentAuthorlineweight
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011 edited
     
    I'm looking at options for internal wall insulation. The wall buildup will be solid brick wall-battens-insulation-VCL-battens-plasterboard.

    The obvious choices for the insulation are foil-faced PIR, eg Celotex GA4000, foil-faced phenolic, eg Kingspan K12, or foil-faced PUR eg Kingspan TW55.

    I was interested in looking at XPS as an alternative because it seems to be considered more eco-friendly than the above, doesn't seem to have the shrinkage worries, and is potentially cheaper (?). But I can't seem to find anyone selling a foil-faced version for walls.

    Is that because such a thing doesn't exist?

    The obvious question is, why do I want a foil-faced board - well my understanding is that it improves performance and provides a surface that can be tape-jointed for vapour and airtightness barrier - presumably if I went with simple XPS boards I'd have to do the vapour/air barrier with a separate sheet of polythene instead?
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
     
    Not sure if there is a foiled version of Jablite? I think they do one for UFH.
    • CommentAuthorSaint
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011 edited
     
    Lineweight, you can purchase XPS ready bonded to plasterboard. The brands Styroliner or Plusboard from Panel Systems and Proctors respectively. Neither typically incorporates a foil VCL as the vapour resistivity of the XPS (Styrofoam in these two cases) is so high. Care is needed at the joints but as a belt and braces vapour control installation two coats of drywall topcoat on the fixed boards will suffice
    • CommentAuthorTimber
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
     
    A seperate vcl is ALWAYS a good idea and I would always suggest using one even if you were using foil faced board.
    • CommentAuthorlineweight
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
     
    Posted By: SaintLineweight, you can purchase XPS ready bonded to plasterboard. The brands Styroliner or Plusboard from Panel Systems and Proctors respectively. Neither typically incorporates a foil VCL as the vapour resistivity of the XPS (Styrofoam in these two cases) is so high. Care is needed at the joints but as a belt and braces vapour control installation two coats of drywall topcoat on the fixed boards will suffice


    Sure, but for various reasons I've decided I don't want to go for a bonded plasterboard/insulation arrangement.
    • CommentAuthorlineweight
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2011
     
    Posted By: CWattersNot sure if there is a foiled version of Jablite? I think they do one for UFH.


    Not that I can find on their website!
    • CommentAuthorSaint
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2011 edited
     
    I'd go with Timber's suggestion then in that case a separate VCL or even an AVCL
    With XPS and EPS its another operation to laminate a foil whereas for the thermosets i.e PUR, PIR etc the foil facings come as part of the manufacturing process.
    You'd have to go to a 3rd party laminator or stockist with a laminating facility. Maybe Encon. Foil would add little thermally if anything to EPS or XPS and if they were available with one side foiled you can bet that someone would install it the wrong way round
    • CommentAuthorlineweight
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2011
     
    Why would foil add little thermally to XPS/EPS, compared to PIR/PUR?
    • CommentAuthorSaint
    • CommentTimeMar 20th 2011
     
    Same for PIR/PUR
Add your comments

    Username Password
  • Format comments as
 
   
The Ecobuilding Buzz
Site Map    |   Home    |   View Cart    |   Pressroom   |   Business   |   Links   
Logout    

© Green Building Press