Green Building Forum - Housing - Renovation Tue, 19 Dec 2023 07:04:19 +0000 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/ Lussumo Vanilla 1.0.3 Sanding of floorboards http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=349 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=349 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 13:54:50 +0100 moogaloo
Anyway my floorboards have been belt sanded before refitting and look good, there is some un eveness between the boards, but I am not sure that I dislke this.

So I was thinking of using an orbital sander to get rid of the more pronounced unevenness and any marks still left on the floor before sealing. My carpanter does not think this is a good idea and recommends using a big floor sander,

Is there anything wrong with what I am planning to do, or am I fool for thinking it?

For extra info my boards are pine.

BTW will be sealing with Kumos Natural Oil Sealer in case anyone has any experience here?]]>
Sun room extension http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=238 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=238 Mon, 30 Apr 2007 11:40:33 +0100 Chris Wardle
The plan is to take the conservatory down to floor slab level and re-use the existing slab, extending it to one side so that the new extension runs across the whole of the rear gable end of the bungalow (stepped in about 500mm at each side). The overall width will be 5.4m and it will extend 2.4m from the house, so fairly small and cost is an issue as the client is now a pensioner!

I would like to build it out of a single skin of concrete blocks, externally insulated and finished with a timber rain screen to give some thermal mass to the room and take advantage of passive solar gains. A number of things are currently vexing me:-

1 Will the building inspector accept the reuse of the conservatory slab? How do I handle this i.e. should I just ask or dig a hole next to the footings before he comes on site?
2 Am I more likely to be able to re-use the slab if I propose a light weight construction, i.e. timber frame, rather than blockwork walls?
3 The extension will be next to the two bedrooms of the house which have no windows except those that will be covered by the extension (the exisiting conservatory is currently accessed through the main bedroom). The plan is to put an internal floor to ceiling window between the extension and the main bedroom with an opening casement for ventilation and a combination frame with door and opening casement from the spare bedroom through which the sun room will be accessed. Will this infringe the building regulations as the ventilation for the bedroom with be through the sun room?
4 Existing rain water off the conservatory roof flows into a water butt with over-flow into a flower bed. We would like to retain a similar arrangement linking the overflow of the water butt to a perforated irrigation pipe wich I will lay in the flower bed under the mulch. Will building control accept this as a reasonable solution or will I be digging a soak away?
5 The roof will essentially be a lean-to type affair to keep the overall high under 4m to avoid the need for planning permission, but there will have to be a hip at each side because of the level of the roof line of the bungalow. I had planned to use timber shingles to finish the roof. Can these be fitted around a hip and remain water-tight?
6 Can I build a single storey extension in 100mm block work or will it have to be 140mm?
7 There will be no insulation in the existing slab so little point in putting any in the extra bit to the side. I don't want to isolate the thermal mass in the slab so can't insulate over the top of it. Can I get over this and comply with the building regs by beefing up the roof and wall insulation?
8 Wall space for a radiator in the extension will be a premium (bungalow is gas centrally heated with new condensing combi). I had thought about a small amount of electric undertile heating (floor will be tiled) on a separate thermostat to the rest of the house so the heating would be more responsive to passive solar gains. Would this be a mistake given that there will be no insulation in the slab?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Thanks, Chris.]]>
Heating my cottage http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=327 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=327 Thu, 31 May 2007 07:50:17 +0100 SteveE
Cheers]]>
External Insulation Eves Detailing http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=348 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=348 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 08:36:33 +0100 Bowman
Any thoughts much appreciated.]]>
External insulation of solid stone walls http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=316 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=316 Fri, 25 May 2007 15:06:34 +0100 Astro
Any ideas much appreciated...]]>
Heat Loss Calcs and Air Changes http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=297 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=297 Fri, 18 May 2007 09:12:21 +0100 Leo
All the sources I've seen on this give air change figures that appear to be taken 'as standard' from I don't know where. This may be fine dealing with new build where there is design intention for specific rooms to have specific ventillation rates, but is there some way I can make a more informed estimate for the rooms in my 1880s house?

Further to this, a number of rooms on the ground floor have been knocked through at some point. This includes open plan access into a glass-roofed kitchen extension, that I'm guessing wouldn't pass regs today. Airflow is therefore hugely important in working out where all the heat is going. Rather than treat this interconnected area all as one room (which it isn't) It seems sensible to treat the regions as separate rooms. This would also allow me to model what happens if I re-partition them in various ways, as well as telling me if the existing rads are sized correctly for the current layout. But how do I work out air changes based on the size of the openings between them?]]>
recycling warm air http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=322 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=322 Tue, 29 May 2007 18:06:05 +0100 geoffnet Water Heater? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=325 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=325 Wed, 30 May 2007 18:56:55 +0100 mybarnconversion
Opinions please?]]>
Replacing old floorboarding and joists. http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=304 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=304 Mon, 21 May 2007 06:07:58 +0100 triniquint Recently we had bedroom furniture built by a carpenter, and he went through the floor in the corner by the outside wall and next door, when a joist simply gave up through rot. Though he replaced this joist, and one other, and then laminated the bedroom floor, as I walk along the window wall towards the corner where he fell through the floor (where our built-in wardrobe now is), the floor creaks and squeaks.

When transiting the living room – which has the front door entering into it, and is a high traffic area – the floor also makes me feel that if my son and I had to jump up and down hard, we would probably crash through that, too.

We also get slugs inside the house, leaving silver trails, which I understand is also a sign of damp. (I can’t believe they live underneath the house on the solum area, but perhaps get into this under floor area via airbricks, or whatever.

I think the entire floor area of the house i.e. hall, living room, and bedroom, requires ripping up, damp-proofing, central heating pipes clad, brand new joists put in (with PVC at ends where they go into the brickwork), possible additional air bricks to improve air flow. Only when this is done, can I then lay new timber flooring – but before laying the actual boards down, I need to know what membrane, if any, I can lay over the joists, and under the boards, so as to seal my living areas off from whatever is underneath.

My tentative plan is to simply empty one room (living room), take up the carpet and underlay, expose the floorboards, remove skirting boards, crowbar up the old floorboards, drop down into the under floor area, remove the joists, and simply leave a large, smelly, open hole space where the living room floor was.

I then want to inspect this i.e. check airbricks have good air flow; that the airbricks are into ducting that passes from the front of the house, through the cavity, and into the under floor area. I don’t want airbricks that simply replace a brick from the wall, and allow air to go through this and vanish into the cavity. The air needs to be directed past the cavity and into the under floor area.

I then want to check all central heating piping is supported, lagged, and not leaking – but lagged with what? Wrapped in Hessian, or polystyrene tubing?

Having done this I want to clear any rubble, detritus, etc from the ground, and check for any sleeper walls. Then check for puddles.

I would like to damp proof this solum area completely – I believe we are getting damp in there from the clay soil – and only once this has been done to my satisfaction, do I ant to renew the joists and flooring, as well as strengthening the floor by using noggins between the joists.

I have been telling my wife this needs doing, but she refuses to countenance it, believing the upheaval will be too much. I believe I can do it in no more than a couple of days – provided I plan accordingly.

I don’t simply want to tear up the old floorboards/joists, and replace with new, and bang them down to hide what’s underneath. I want a dry under floor area, and the job to be done properly – but need advice.

Whilst reasonably competent at DIY, this is a major undertaking which I am a little frightened of. Once I have started, then I will be compelled to finish it, and if I make an mess of it, I’ll wish I’d never have started, and could lose money unnecessarily. I am loathe to call in builders due to cost, and not being 100% certain they don’t cut corners.

Any advise or ideas would be very helpful.]]>
Can existing houses ever be carbon neutral? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=194 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=194 Sun, 15 Apr 2007 18:40:23 +0100 MH
I was just wondering could the existing housing stock ever be carbon neutral using micro renewables such as Wind turbines and Pvs. The reason I ask is the SD Commission has a stat that 60% of our energy in homes are consumed in space and water heating which uses natural gas in most places so how could just a wind turbine or Pv ever replace the heating unless you change the whole heating system.


I know Solar water heating could help reduce this burdern and the above could try and reduce the electrical needs but I always had the idea that you only needed one microgeneration form. As I've conducted my research for my dissertation it seems clear you need a combination that suits your particular home.

Please correct me if I'm missing the obvious!

By the way could I also PLEASE ask people with experience or educated on renewable energy/microgeneartion etc to please spare a couple of mins to fill a questionnaire http://www.smart-survey.co.uk/v.asp?i=1679tjjpu
I only need at least 3 more responses to complete my research as it requires input from those in the know.

Thanks....I look forward to your replies.:bigsmile:

Mohammad.]]>
Loft converter recommendation http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=273 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=273 Thu, 10 May 2007 09:36:17 +0100 Ads High-quality secondary glazing http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=257 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=257 Fri, 04 May 2007 22:31:20 +0100 Nick Parsons
Thanks in anticipation.

Nick]]>
DG units in new or existing sash windowcases http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=163 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=163 Sun, 01 Apr 2007 15:50:25 +0100 fostertom
>brand new sashes can be fitted within existing sash windowcases, allowing optimum-thickness (24mm, with 16mm airgap) DG units in best-practice deep rebates using dry glazing tapes, rather than bedding in mastic (which is death to dg units).

New sashes can be 56mm or more deep, in place of the usual 44mm. The bit that runs in the frame remains 44dp; extra depth spreads inboard and outboard within the depth of the staff bead and the fixed outer facing (whatever that's called); it's surprisingly unnoticeable. The sightline width remains 44mm, as normal.

The sashes are glazed-in, not glazed-out. The normal bevelled putty profile is reproduced as part of the outboard rebate platform. Inboard there's a timber bead incorporating the usual mould shape. Hell, difficult to describe. Anyone who wants, I'll post a drawing - email me at info at space-and-light dot co dot uk. I've failed to send same to 2 people who've requested same previously - I will do it, promise.

Sash weights will have to be doubled in weight, to counterbalance 2 panes instead of one (the timber weight is negligible compared with the glass)<

Here at last is the detail - hope it works here: http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c301/fostertom/Waterheadwindows.jpg

It shows newbuild sash windowcase but such sashes *can* also be fitted into existing windowcases, with a stepped-edge to the sash - I'd describe further if nec.]]>
Lime plaster as an air barrier http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=107 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=107 Thu, 15 Mar 2007 10:41:53 +0000 Terry Would this apply to lime render as well and how would it compare with cement render?
Does anybody have any data to quantify how effective these renders are as an air barrier?]]>
unsealed solum. http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=258 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=258 Sat, 05 May 2007 19:14:03 +0100 westies2803 I'm in the process of purchasing my first older property, However the survey has flagged up the above problem amongst others. What I need to know is how deep do I have to go down before back filling with hardcore, sand, waterproof membrane then concrete? Any help you guys can give me will be really appreciated.]]> Heat Pumps, Wood Burners, Underfloor Heating and Solar Hot Water http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=181 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=181 Tue, 10 Apr 2007 16:20:44 +0100 moogaloo
I am planning on getting solar hot water system installed and a couple of wood burning stoves in the two main downstairs rooms.

I am also considering an Air Source Heat Pump to drive the underfloor heating leaving the condensing boiler to top up any lack of solar heating in the water tank.

Other considerations might be a Thermal Store that could be topped up by Solar/wood burning stove back boiler/heat pump.

The question is which way to go? The wood burning stoves will be primarily decorative, so I am quite happy to leave them out of the equation and any time I do use them, the rest of the heating system should not work so hard.

So any advice here? Which direction should I go in? What should I look at?

Also can anyone give me any idea of how much an Air Source Heat Pump for a 3 bed semi would cost including installation (Ball Park)?

Cheers

Chris]]>
Low Energy Bathroom Lighting http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=153 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=153 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 13:04:01 +0100 moogaloo
So as I am getting the house rewired, I need to start thinking about lighting. For most rooms it is a simlpe case of puting normal energy saving light bulbs in. But what should I do in the Bathroom?

Halogen is better than normal lightbulbs but not as effecient as energy savers, LED looks promising but a lot of LED stuff does not allow you to replace the bulb, I have also heard talk of the need for an LED control box?

Any advice experience or suggestions in this area would be greatfully appreciated?]]>
Loft Insulation with shallow depth http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=216 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=216 Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:11:48 +0100 moogaloo
I gather that multifoil does not do the business and therefore wondered if there was any other super duper alternative that could be equivelant to 270 cm without being 270cm if you get my meaning?

One idea I had was can loft boards themselves be made up of an insulating material with something thiner underneather them?]]>
Opportunity to renovate an old building http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=114 Sat, 17 Mar 2007 21:36:40 +0000 ian
Okay here's my question to the forum.

We are in need of some fairly large building repairs but have neglected to plan long-term for this(naughty naughty). So not wishing to miss any golden opportunities is anybody available to quote or give some advice on the following 2 jobs

1 - New flat roof (70 Msq)
My thoughts on this were - EPDM membrane, polyurethane insulation, and maybe sedum/turf on top
Our budget will be limited and I'm unsure as to whether any local roofers will be able to do the sedum/turf option
2 - External cladding and insulation of an exterior wall. (100Msq, only 2 windows on upper floor)
Again polyurethane then maybe some welsh grown red cedar cladding. This wall has no pointing and is suffering from damp. About 20 yrs ago an adjoining warehouse/factory was demolished whic was originally built against it.

Pictures are provided in the following link.
http://iansengineeringpage.org.uk/pics/roof/roof.html
http://www.birminghamfoe.org.uk/warehouse.htm

Also if anybody is passing through Birmingham city centre please feel free to pop in and check out our place.
There's a vegetarian restaurant, wholefood shop, bike shop, meeting room for hire and more - all only 5 minutes walk from New St station.

I have looked through a copy of the green building bible( I think it was called that - directory for green builders) but there was nobody in Birmingham and few people in the Midlands it seemed.

Thanks - Ian Moore]]>
Floor Covering on top of Underfloor Heating http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=196 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=196 Mon, 16 Apr 2007 13:10:56 +0100 moogaloo
I do like the idea of a wood or tile finish as I have a vomitting cat, but wondered what else was out there beyone laminate, perhaps something greener?]]>
Loft Insulation - What should we go for? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=21 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=21 Sun, 04 Feb 2007 20:50:09 +0000 skier-hughes
Our house is very old, over 600 years in places.

The roof area is large, so to take our meagre amount up to 10" we'd be spending a fortune on thermafleece, whereas we could get grant aided, fitted normal insulation.

Should I let my heart rule my head or let my wallet rule this time?

Is one any better than the other?
Why?
How?

Graham]]>
Wall and floor insulation - ideas http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=160 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=160 Fri, 30 Mar 2007 20:13:16 +0100 sdsteinhardt Secondary glazing/double glazing http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=60 Wed, 21 Feb 2007 21:34:28 +0000 ecoworrier In situations were replacing existing window units is not ideal or necessary ie. listed building.
Is it beneficial to have secondary double glazing or would single glazed units be sufficient?
Does the gap between the panes matter (when its more than 16mm), say as much as 100mm?]]>
Bathroom Lighting http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=152 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=152 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 12:58:16 +0100 moogaloo
So as I am getting the house rewired, I need to start thinking about lighting. For most rooms it is a simlpe case of puting normal energy saving light bulbs in. But what should I do in the Bathroom?

Halogen is better than normal lightbulbs but not as effecient as energy savers, LED looks promising but a lot of LED stuff does not allow you to replace the bulb, I have also heard talk of the need for an LED control box?

Any advice experience or suggestions in this area would be greatfully appreciated?]]>
Weatherproofing render http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=61 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=61 Thu, 22 Feb 2007 07:56:12 +0000 ANGAND
Chipping off the render and starting again is not an option unfortunately. So we are considering other ways to rectify the situation. We’ve heard about a microporous product called Andura (used by many companies that advertise render repair and restoration) and Beeck’s silicate paints.

Can anyone advise us or share their experience? The walls are 65cm thick stone/rubble fill so inserting aeration bricks may not be possible.

thanks.]]>
Verges and undercloaks http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=128 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=128 Fri, 23 Mar 2007 11:29:16 +0000 Julian Timber frame extension, roof trusses at 600 centres, reclaimed concrete double roman 50's, breather membrane.
1. I want to use cloaked verge tiles - it seems sensible to avoid wet verges. But I don't see that many cloaked verges and wondered why? Anyone have any views on them?

2.If I do use cloaked verge tiles could I use 150mm strips of WBP as an undercloak instead of the asbestos/cement type? I would guess there maybe less condesation risk from a piece of WBP than from a cement/asbestos undercloak.

3. Plastic eaves protectors & plastic felt supports - is there an alternative or are they essential? All the plastic fittings are expensive. The existing roof has bitumen felt down over the fascia board - it's been there for years without miles of plastic and without any obvious deterioration.

Thanks
Julian]]>
Rented property ? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=57 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=57 Tue, 20 Feb 2007 08:30:33 +0000 Brian Beney Loft insulation...but different http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=29 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=29 Tue, 06 Feb 2007 18:26:46 +0000 Katymac
I am insistant that we have more - he doesn't want to put more down for it to be ripped up is 18m time

Can we insulate the roof rather than the floor - or will that have no value??

If we can....how??]]>
Straw Bales?? http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=7 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 19:20:18 +0000 Katymac
Would straw bales be a cost effective way of insulationg my walls

Can I put them outside the concrete block walls (to save space)

How do I finish them off? Render?

How do I do the edges for windows/doors/roof?

Or are straw bales expensive?]]>
Part L1B, Building Regs http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=50 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=50 Sat, 17 Feb 2007 15:27:50 +0000 Nick Parsons
Any comments gratefully received. Thanks, Nick]]>
External insulation http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=45 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=45 Mon, 12 Feb 2007 21:24:04 +0000 Katymac
The concrete blocks will need rendering so the idea is to insulate externally and then render

So far my options appear to be
Straw bales (no idea of cost)
Herakith boards (£67K?? - I must have it wrong:cry:)
Difflum boards (even more expensive)

Are they more conventional methods?

PS really don't have a clue do I?]]>
Condensation on inside of conservatory roof http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=34 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=34 Fri, 09 Feb 2007 15:55:02 +0000 Katymac
I know I need to replace the roofing panels - but can I do anything in the meantime

I have thought about

Foil on the ceiling
paint the ceiling
polystyrene tiles on the ceiling


Any other ideas?:sad:]]>
How tight is tight? ( all discussion in m3/h/m2 @ 50Pa ) http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=11 http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=11 Wed, 31 Jan 2007 22:24:26 +0000 tony
Would you accept a window open all the time? a door? both halves of a patio door not there all winter?]]>