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    Hi all,

    I am researching how low u-values need to be to achieve CSH levels. I realise that this part of the code is based on a percentage DER/TER improvement but does anyone have a feel for what this translates to in terms of fabric u-values.

    I am after Code 4,5 and 6 u-values for walls and ceilings and suspended floors. Anyone help?

    Many thanks in advance. Mike
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010 edited
     
    Mike

    The Code refers to more than just the building, it includes the occupants lifestyle. Whether supplying an area so that people can work from home and somewhere to put their cycle will actually make then do it is another matter. Think there is something in there about how far from a bus stop you are, and if it is directly opposite your house and there is no official cross within a set distance you can fail. But they are quirks.

    Here is a link to it.

    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/code_for_sust_homes.pdf

    Seems that Part L is what regulates the thermal performance, but think this is due an update.

    http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/uploads/br/BR_PDF_ADL1A_2006.pdf

    Can't really help more than that as design detail starts to come into it.
  2.  
    Thanks ST.

    Been reading some more : From http://www.woodknowledgewales.co.uk/page.jsp?id=89

    "Achieving Code 4 requires a mandatory minimum of 8 credits under section Ene 1 resulting in a DER/ TER improvement of ≥ 44%. Because of the design flexibility provided by Part L of the building regulations there is no defined U value for a wall element which would be required to comply with this reduction in the DER. In practice U values of 0.15 W/(m2K) or less are generally considered necessary to achieve such a significant reduction in the DER. In certain contexts, such as detached houses in an exposed setting, architects may wish to specify even lower U values than this, with U values as low as 0.1 W/(m2K) considered necessary"

    The site doesn't really make it clear whether the improvement in wall u-value alone is typically enough to result in the 44% improvement; or whether improvements to the other fabric elements are also required.

    Anyone add more meat to this?
  3.  
    Posted By: Mike GeorgeIn certain contexts, such as detached houses


    ...actually detached houses can get by with higher U values to get the same %reduction over the building regulations house of the same notional form as there is more external area to improve upon...

    J
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
     
    Good point James.

    Just go for the Lowest U value you can afford (be that cash or space). Heat Recovery is also worth thinking about. It is all about Carbon Reduction really.
    • CommentAuthorDarylP
    • CommentTimeMar 27th 2010
     
    To get a 44% improvement of DER over TER, I would expect U values of .10 or lower for the walls and floors, triple glazing etc, but it's the 'whole mix' that will get the SAP sorted , not just the U values.

    Email me if you want some proper, unbiased advice or pointers: daryl@dkpservices.co.uk

    Cheers....
    :smile:
    • CommentAuthorTimber
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2010
     
    As others have said there is no defined CSH level 4 = U values of x.

    From what I have seen, csh level 3 is achievable with U values just under 0.2, but it really depends on heating and hotwater systems etc almost as much as the U values.

    Timber
    • CommentAuthorMike George
    • CommentTimeMar 28th 2010 edited
     
    Thanks Timber. Presumably the 0.2 figure is for all averaged whole house u-values?

    I really am only after an approximation. An example figure for Level 4 would be great if anyone has actual experience.

    I think I phrased this question wrong -

    I'm going to have another go - thanks all for your help

    Revised query here http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=5556&page=1#Item_8
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