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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2023 edited
     
    Saw the usual so-so article in Guardian but this is a bit better
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2334240-floating-artificial-leaf-converts-energy-from-sunlight-into-fuel

    But no one spells it out - where's the carbon coming from, presumably from atmosphere, or maybe from the pond water?!
    Seems, at best it's capturing then pretty soon re-emitting carbon already in the cycle, rather than releasing 'new' carbon from fossil sequestration - as well as partially substituting 'harmless' green hydrogen for carbon, in this 'future' fuel mix.

    “The crucial point is that we are not decarbonising the economy through techniques like these,” Reisner said. “Carbon is still a key component. What we are doing is to ‘defossilise’ the economy. We will no longer be burning ancient sources of carbon – coal, oil and gas – and adding greenhouse gases to the atmosphere".

    What does the team think? What about the embodied energy/carbon, rare elements etc, in making/maintaining the 'machinery' and collecting/distributing the product?
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2023
     
    Posted By: fostertomwhere's the carbon coming from, presumably from atmosphere, or maybe from the pond water?!
    The water - alternative article here:

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/artificial-leaf-hydrogen-syngas

    Posted By: fostertomWhat about the embodied energy/carbon, rare elements etc, in making/maintaining the 'machinery' and collecting/distributing the product?
    Good to have some alternatives but, as it's a prototype, it's early to know how such issues would be worked through.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2023
     
    Posted By: Mike1The water - alternative article here:

    https://spectrum.ieee.org/artificial-leaf-hydrogen-syngas
    No that article says "A new artificial leaf is light enough to float on water, where it can soak up sunlight and carbon dioxide from air". So the answer is the air. There's no carbon in pure water, so it would have to rely on impurities or dissolved gases anyway.

    The whole thing will never amount to anything anyway, IMHO.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2023 edited
     
    Posted By: djhNo that article says "A new artificial leaf is light enough to float on water, where it can soak up sunlight and carbon dioxide from air".
    Reading more closely, it seems it can be either: "Depending on the catalyst used, the device either splits water to produce hydrogen fuel, or converts carbon dioxide into syngas"
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2023
     
    Yes but the carbon comes from the air. Splitting water (electrolysis) doesn't involve any carbon.
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