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Green Building Bible, Fourth Edition
Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2015
     
    I have discovered a systematic problem with beam and block

    While surveying the ground floor of a beam and block home I noticed some dark staining to the edge of a light coloured carpet (I had seen this before upstairs with wood floors before) this dark staining is not due to poor hoovering but due to wind blowing through the edge of the carpet, leaving some dirty duet staining behind.

    For a while I couldn't understand how there could be a draught but the sole plates of the internal walls had been fixed before screeding and in order to save time grouting seemed to have been left to the screeders, not a bad idea except may be they wetted everything and didn't really do the grouting.

    Then disastrously and predictably the plate shrank back a little as it dried out, 1/8" each side, just enough to leave a nasty draught in every home built this way, which of the big boys cuts corners like this.

    In the kitchen there were draughts coming in under the skirtings, visible on thermal imaging!

    Pictures to follow.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2015
     
    Picture, note edges of carpet of this solid floor home look a bit dirty
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    • CommentAuthorDandJ
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2015
     
    Unfortunately it appears to be more of a problem associated with poor workmanship than a particular building method, as is generally the case.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 26th 2015
     
    Not really as it will do the same even when built well unless the grouting is done well, even then the floor is likely to develop hairline cracks that will let air in.
    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2015
     
    Why not put a membrane under the studs and the first few inches of the screed?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2015
     
    No idea why they don't do that nor why they build such poor quality houses
    • CommentAuthorringi
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2015
     
    Putting the screed down first would be my choice unless UFH was being put in. But getting the company to come in to do the screed may create delays to the build.
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    Best practice is to grout the floors with a cement slurry.. though generally left for the screed layers hence the problem .. If it were done by the beam and black installers then there would be no air infiltration.

    I'm surprised that timber studs are built directly on the beam and block though - poor practice to put timber in a zone where it will ultimately be embedded in cement.
    • CommentAuthorDandJ
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2015
     
    <blockquote><cite>Posted By: Mike George</cite>Best practice is to grout the floors with a cement slurry.. though generally left for the screed layers hence the problem .. If it were done by the beam and black installers then there would be no air infiltration.

    I'm surprised that timber studs are built directly on the beam and block though - poor practice to put timber in a zone where it will ultimately be embedded in cement.</blockquote>

    On site it is always done by the beam and block installers in my experience
    • CommentAuthorMike George
    • CommentTimeOct 31st 2015 edited
     
    Hi Dand J. Do you mean the floor grouting? or the timber sole plate?
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