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      CommentAuthorKatymac
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
     
    Converting a chapel into a children' daycare nursery (in case you hadn't been paying attention :wink:)

    So with the helpful man from building control, experts in water treatment, heating, mezzanine floors etc, can I make it all work without an architect?

    I guess I will get a structural engineer to draw up plans for the tricky bits

    Is this stupid/ill-advised/good idea/insane?
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      CommentAuthorrogerwhit
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
     
    Sounds like change of use - thus you need planning consent as well as having to comply with building regs. Who will draw & submit the plans?

    You could hire an architectural technician for about half the rate of a RIBA qualified architect for such a purpose (possibly for about 5% of the building contract value?).

    There's a lot to be said for having a builder that you trust co-ordinate the conversion work and organise / oversee other trades.
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      CommentAuthorrogerwhit
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
     
    You will need plans both for approval and for people to work to, coupled with a written schedule of works, for people to quote against - competitive quotes are only valid aginst a fixed specification.
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      CommentAuthorKatymac
    • CommentTimeMay 25th 2008
     
    No - both D1 usage no change of use needed

    Great builder

    Dad used to be MIStructE (last house he built was in 197something) - so can draw - but we'd need someone who can do it in metric cos BC won't take imperial.....apparently
    • CommentAuthorTheDoctor
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    funny that
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      CommentAuthorKatymac
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    But with a competent draughtsman a kindly BCO, a good builder - I might be ok?
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    I know a building control officer who does drawings for me on the side
    ask around, it has to be someone from another area though due to conflict of interest.
    Architects ( if there any good ) are good at getting the most out of a space and getting things looking right

    But if you know what you want and your builders clued up dont waste your money on one.
    my experience is on small jobs it over complicates things and adds another level of confusion
    • CommentAuthorjoe.e
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: KatymacBut with a competent draughtsman a kindly BCO, a good builder - I might be ok?

    If you've got those three things lined up you'll be fine.
    Posted By: rogerwhitYou will need plans both for approval and for people to work to, coupled with a written schedule of works, for people to quote against - competitive quotes are only valid aginst a fixed specification.

    As Roger says, the written schedule of works is really important. As well as costing, it lets you work out scheduling. Go through it looking out for the sticking points - the bits of work that have to get finished before the next thing can start. Then talk to your builder / contractors to work out what they need in place to make those things go smoothly.
    The most expensive item you will be buying is the labour of your site workers. If you're overseeing the project yourself, the most important thing for you to do is to talk to all your subcontractors about what they need, what would inconvenience them, and so on. You've got to plan things so that every obstacle is taken out of their way, so that they can get on with the job.
    But it sounds as if you have a good builder lined up already, which is the main thing. Arrange for your specialist subcontractors to come and talk to the builder about timing and practicalities.
    Apologies if I'm patronising you and you know all this. I've been involved as a specialist subcontractor in some really spectacular project disasters, though, and you wouldn't believe how some professionals do things.
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      CommentAuthorKatymac
    • CommentTimeMay 26th 2008
     
    Hmm - I think I may be out of my depth again

    That's a bummer:cry:
    • CommentAuthorShytalkz
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    Posted By: KatymacDad used to be MIStructE (last house he built was in 197something) - so can draw - but we'd need someone who can do it in metric cos BC won't take imperial.....apparently
    He's one of the old school who can actually draw as well as calculate, then! If you're still looking for an SE of the metric variety (who can also draw, I hasten to add!), I'm based in Norfolk (from previous posts of yours, I believe that you're not too far from Norwich?), with extensive experience in old/listed buildings revamps/conversions and would be pleased to help out. Email me on shytalkz@googlemail.com, if you're interested and I'll give you my full contact details.
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    Katy
    If your dad was practising in the 70's he must have metricated, at least as far as the UK has got & will probably have a nice triangular rule somewhere with suitable scales. Not as good as the old Imperial scales of course, which could be doubled & redoubled indefinitely in 1/8ths & 3/8ths ranges...

    Try asking him waht the weight of a Newton apple is, or the stress in its stem.
    • CommentAuthorLizM
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    You'll need someone to do the Part L calculations as well. These need to be approved people.
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      CommentAuthorKatymac
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    Will a structural engineer do these (are they about insulation?)
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      CommentAuthorKatymac
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    Sorry ShytalkZ - not meaning to ignore you

    Just waiting to see if my builder has a guy already, if not I will be in touch, thanks for the offer
    • CommentAuthorShytalkz
    • CommentTimeJun 2nd 2008
     
    No probs Katey! No, SEs don't usually get involved with U values. There are a couple of local names I can give you, who don't charge a vast amount, if you want.
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