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    Hello, I'd like to have a largish heat store that can be used with a wood burner in the winter and solar in the summer. It will also need a gas boiler. I understand that I will need a 'system' boiler, but not sure what boilers to be looking at. Does anybody have any recommendations for a suitable gas boiler that would be robust and good value for money?
    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2016 edited
     
    Intergas SB. No forum I'm on ever seems to have a bad word to say about them. Might we worth speaking to jonG on here; he's very good at designing (and implementing, if you like) heating systems
    • CommentAuthorJonG
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2016
     
    Hi COP I did ask whether anyone was available locally to assist you on the other gas engineer forums but no-one has volunteered just yet I am afraid.

    We fit a lot of Intergas boilers and have been very happy with them, they can be used on open vent or sealed systems, but I would strongly suggest that you look at sealed stoves to improve the quality of the installation, or seal everything bar the stove circuit.

    We have just installed an Intergas with a sealed stove with both feeding a 300 litre buffer, a flue stat relays out the boiler when the stove is in. 1 rad circuit is weather compensated via an LK130 valve and the towel warmers are on a fixed temp circuit on a timer, hot water is via the combi side of the boiler.

    A sealed stove also doesn't have to have a gravity circuit which can be a pain to install and wasteful of energy.

    The achilles heel of the Intergas is the lack of modulation (comparatively), but as you will be using a thermal store this will not be an issue, if you design the rads with a max FT of circa 65 the boiler will condense nicely into the store. In the installation above a buffer stat linked in series with an external stat calls on the IG boiler when required.

    I have our schematic but not sure how to upload it.
  2.  
    Thanks guys! I'll have a look at the Intergas. Presumably I can get away with a fairly small boiler as it will be heating the store.

    @JonG, thanks for looking for me. I was thinking about an open vented system as I would prefer something low maintenance.
    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2016
     
    If the schematic is a picture, it should just upload using the choose file button below the comment box. If a PDF, doc or other non image might have to rename it to add .txt to the name (e.g schematic.pdf -> schematic.pdf.txt, COP then d/l and removes txt extension to view)

    Could also screenshot it using SNIPPING tool And upload as images (PNG format advised) using button below
  3.  
    @JonG - if you log in to the GBF site (top LHS corner) you should see further options for uploading including 'Attachments: Choose File.'
    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2016
     
    Good point.. Forgot that some things are hidden if a user uses the "enter username , password and message to post" mode of forum behaviour
    • CommentAuthorJonG
    • CommentTimeMay 10th 2016
     
    Schematic too big apparently.

    I would say that an open vented system has more potential for long term maintenance issues than a sealed one given the potential for them to develop corrosion related issues through O2 entrainment.

    The smallest intergas system at the moment is an 18 but new models are eagerly awaited.

    Should be fine anyway with a thermal store.
  4.  
    Here's Jon's schematic.
      JonG2.jpg
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