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Green Building Bible, fourth edition (both books)
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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    What do we think is the least economic way to construct internal walls?
    • CommentAuthorCliff Pope
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Two foot thick stonework with carved detailing around the doorways?

    There probably are more expensive materials though. :)
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Wall to ceiling glass partition?
    Star Wars style force field?
    • CommentAuthorEd Davies
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Metre thick gold with embedded diamonds? Well, 2 metre thick would be even less economic… Good sound deadening, though, I imagine. Next silly context-free question?
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    There's often a hidden agenda to tony's off-centre questions. Go on tony, put us out of our misery, what crap examples have you discovered.:bigsmile:
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    An economy is characterised by input of human and natural resources and capital; production and consumption; and barter or exchange of products.

    A non-existent internal wall would not involve any of these.

    So, an open-plan building with no internal walls, is the least economic. QED.

    Edit: Keynes famously said that building pyramids would stimulate the economy by keeping everyone earning and spending. A pyramid has no internal walls as such, it's solid masonry all the way through except maybe a few tomb chambers and a high thermal mass. So a building with no internal walls is simultaneously the most and the least economic.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Antimatter @ $62.5 trillion per gram would certainly be uneconomic. For the workforce, nanobots would take a while.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    I am watching an ICF build and find it very surprising that the internal walls are ICF too, wastes money and space
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Maybe they are all loadbearing?
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Are they doing things themselves? Putting up the forms yourself and getting concrete pumped might be as cheap as getting blockworkers to build a wall? Or maybe they want to have their bedroom cooler than their living room? Have you asked?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    contractor on the g/f at present -- cant see a reason regarding loadbearing/not loadbearing

    I worry about the cost/value of the lost space
    • CommentAuthorrevor
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Perhaps they want soundproofing maybe a cinema room.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    Every room - can’t see eps giving much sound insulation but poured concrete will be better than blocks
    • CommentAuthorphiledge
    • CommentTimeAug 20th 2021
     
    If the internal walls are supporting the mid span of external walls then maybe its easier to structurally bond ICF to ICF than ICF to block??
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2021
     
    Posted By: tonyI am watching an ICF build and find it very surprising that the internal walls are ICF too, wastes money and space
    More cash for the ICF maker though! Also possible that they may use the ICF only as temporary formwork, and strip the insulation from it later to reduce the thickness.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2021
     
    What a waste! And mess, I can’t see that happening as it would expose what the concrete looked like.

    But yes
    • CommentAuthorrevor
    • CommentTimeAug 22nd 2021
     
    I'd play dumb, go over and have a nosey say you are interested in buildings, watch grand designs etc etc and ask. Then you can relieve the suspense and let us know.
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