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  1.  
    Hello All,

    I'm trying to answer the following question:

    "Is there, by chance, a simple comparison between our 40 cm brick wall lined with Sempatap and painted with the Thermilate enhanced paint and a thinner modern wall with a filled cavity?"

    Can anyone help me out here? Are U-Values cumulative or is there a specific formula for this? Can someone point me in the direction of any sites that compare these types of products?

    Cheers,

    Ben
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2009 edited
     
    If you had a wall made of three layers with U-Values U1, U2 and U3 and the overall U-Value is Utot then...

    1/Utot = 1/U1 + 1/U2 + 1/U3 etc

    or

    Utot = 1/(1/U1 + 1/U2 + 1/U3)
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2009 edited
     
    Ok I'll attempt some calculations...

    There are three components to your proposed wall..

    1) The brick
    Google says a 9" solid brick wall has a U-Value of about 2.0 so I would expect a 16" (40cm) wall to have a u-value approx.. 1/(1/2.0 * 16/9) = 1.1 W/m^2K

    2) The Sempatap
    Data here http://www.mgcltd.co.uk/Products/Thermal_and_Acoustic_Insulation/SEMPATAP_THERMAL/ suggests that 10mm of Sempatap isn't a great insulator... The thermal resistance is given as 0.158m² K/W
    and that means a U-Value of about 6.3 W/m^2K (hardly worth bothering with?)

    3) The Thermilate
    Trying to find U-Value data on Thermilate paint isn't easy and some of the data out there is very missleading! This test was conducted on a sheet of painted plasterboard...
    http://www.thermilate.com/pdfs/itdpdfs/Salford_Un_R_Value_test.pdf
    R Value of untreated plasterboard = 0.136 m^2K/W
    R Value of treated plasterboard = 0.199 m^2K/W
    Improvement = 0.063 m^2K/W
    So that a U-Value of 1/0.063 = 15.8 W/m^2K (hardly worth bothering with?)

    Total U-Value
    ============

    So the total for the wall would be approx:

    1(1/1.1 + 1/6.3 + 1/15.8) = 0.88 W/m^2K


    Modern Cavity Wall
    ================

    The calculator on the Celotex Web site says that

    4" brick leaf
    25mm cavity
    50mm celotex
    Block leaf
    wet plaster

    U-Value approx 0.26 W/m^2K

    So a modern wall would loose about three times less energy. 0.88/0.26 = 3.3
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeJun 12th 2009
     
    For completeness..

    The Celotex calculator has an option for a solid wall. If you enter 400mm of brick and various thicknesses of celotex, 25mm battens and plasterboard you get...

    Celotex(mm) U-Value
    25..............0.41
    50..............0.28
    75..............0.22
  2.  
    Fantastic. Many thanks for this.
  3.  
    Hi,
    A useful tool is found at vesma dot com

    The file Uvalue01.xls has a variety of materials to choose then you add the speciifc thickness you have. Also adds in bits like exterior/internal surface values as well. Just add the materials as in posts above to get the overall. Works off line as well.

    Cheers

    Mike up North
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeJun 16th 2009 edited
     
    this is a good easy to use calculator

    http://www.xtratherm.com/software/software.php
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