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    Anyone following earlier posts will now know we have planning for our pair of eco-houses, (which is what I am now being forced to call them by people who refer to my own preferred title of "low environmental impact / low energy houses" as "a bit of a mouthful").

    http://www.greenbuildingforum.co.uk/newforum/comments.php?DiscussionID=732&page=2#Item_15

    Looking for close-to-passiv-haus, looking at windows - have bought from Nordan before, and am looking at their Ntech Passive which seems a decent sort of window and performing at the top of the market.

    Nordan do not require me to take out a second mortgage just for windows, or learn German or Swedish to order them, therefore can anyone think of a half decent reason to not go straight back to them?

    (reasons to the positive also welcome)

    J
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2008 edited
     
    No . - look here Paul Leech speaks glowingly about them

    http://constructireland.ie/Articles/Design-Approaches/Redefining-Building-Boundaries/Page-9.html

    "Nordan, for instance, who were extremely good value, went on in design development to deliver in terms of good engineering. We would compliment Frank O’Toole and his team of Erik De Vos and John McMenamy for staying with us and for seeing the thing through. We believe they’ve produced something that they can be justifiably proud of."
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2008 edited
     
    What looked like typical PR writing is actually part of a long article about a building that's well worth studying - when I have time! And the ConstructIreland for a Sustainable Future site looks good, incl a lively-looking forum similar in feel and subject matter to this one. Check it out.
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    Tom,

    Did you come across Nordan in your earlier look at 3g windows?

    J
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 17th 2008 edited
     
    Posted By: James NortonDid you come across Nordan in your earlier look at 3g windows?
    Funny! I did answer that but where is it? At the time they either couldn't do 3G or didn't respond. Now it seems like you're into the new breed of Passivhaus-inspired windows that are coming in. The survey needs doing again. You?!
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 18th 2008 edited
     
    lengthy thread here

    http://www.constructireland.ie/vb/showthread.php?t=257&highlight=triple

    and here

    http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055360545&highlight=triple+glazing
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    Any one know of any other passiv haus ish windows (ie not necessarily passivhaus accredited)?

    Tom,

    Will report back on any findings

    J
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 21st 2008
     
    http://www.munsterjoinery.ie/news/index.html
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    Any 1st hand experience of Munster Joinery?

    ( Whats that coming over the hill, is it a Munster?.... etc etc )

    J
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
     
    They do the flimsy UK-unique 'Stormproof' type design. Maybe their Passiv design will be different but it's only 'up and coming' so far. All very Irish, know whadda mean?
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
     
    see ya guys
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008
     
    Hey sinnerboy, no offence - are you Irish? I do English jokes too. I thought I saw you say Romanian, somewhere?
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
     
    Fair enough Tom - from the fair city myself - so much as admire Ronan O Gara , I tend to shout more for Brian O Driscol ( Leinster )

    Your summation of MJ would have been fair comment a couple of years back , but they have upped their game recently and extended their range .
    I don't want to be seen to "push" them or anything like that but James could do worse than sending a PDF schedule for pricing .

    They will issue Chiltern test reports for U Values if asked . I'm finding all the window guys are not very pro-active on that score . I have prompted them to make the reports downloadable from their site .... waiting ....waiting
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    Thanks 'Sinner' or do I call you Mr Boy (just kidding, seriously thanks I'll talk to them - and naturally report back)

    J
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 22nd 2008 edited
     
    :bigsmile: I have been called worse
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    Posted By: sinnerboy
    They will issue Chiltern test reports for U Values if asked . I'm finding all the window guys are not very pro-active on that score . I have prompted them to make the reports downloadable from their site .... waiting ....waiting



    I have the feeling that the particular window is not destined for mainstream production. Quadruple glazing is going to be expensive, heavy – thus smallish opening vents, and have very low daylight & solar transmission. The approach is horribly reminiscent of the PVC industry increasing the cavity width of double-glazed on the basis the marketing guys were saying the wider the better. Have you seen any 3rd party reports for this unit? No mention of it at BBA or BFRC. Does it come with the standard MJ guarantee!

    Monty

    PS. Apologies for dropping of the boards thread you mentioned above - Mufflers Stalinist tendencies got the better of him and he banned me – spurious accusations against forum mods!!
    • CommentAuthorandy t
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2008
     
    Saint Gobain Glass Solutions have a free download program called Calumen which allows you to create I.G. sealed units of varying make up (double/triple), using different low-e and self clean glasses, and argon, krypton or air filled cavities of various widths. Make up the unit hit 'calculate' and it gives you 'U' values reflectance etc. Technically a trade customer tool, so don't tell them I said... (google calumen)
    • CommentAuthorhowdytom
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2008
     
    does it load up in English Andy, i tried to down load it, did the unzip bit, then got lost in the French language, "I tried hitting the buttons louder" to no avail.
    tom
    • CommentAuthorandy t
    • CommentTimeOct 23rd 2008
     
    Unzip to desktop which will create about four icons, go into set up and it should be back in english, was for me.
    Just going to double check- let me know.
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 24th 2008
     
    From BER 443 - 2006 - page 11

    I was surprised to see this . Is this advice still current - anybody ?

    "Trickle vents are often provided in windows. While their presence affects
    heat transfer in practice, ventilation is regarded as a separate issue to
    transmission heat losses, so do not include the trickle vents in U-value
    determination. Specifically:
    ● in hot-box tests, the trickle vents should be closed and sealed with tape to
    ensure no air transfer;
    ● perform calculations as if the trickle vents were not present."
    • CommentAuthorandy t
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2008
     
    It's still current regarding window energy ratings, according to WHS-Halo recommendations for fabricators trying to attain ratings. They advise not to fit for hot box testing.
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeOct 27th 2008
     
    Until the regs mandate some form of heat recovery ventilation the regs are a bit inconsistent... Seal everything and then make holes for ventilation.

    Which bit are you surprised about sinnerboy?
    • CommentAuthorsinnerboy
    • CommentTimeOct 28th 2008
     
    Perhaps I am not surprised CW . I like to live in hope however ..... to have implementable regulations
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    Saw the 'Viking' windows at Interbuild:

    Better appearance than Nordan but slightly lower spec and on previous experience higher price.

    However for the real ding dong, phwoar, windows for the windows geek such as I, I also saw these chaps:

    http://www.kneer-suedfenster.de/en/aluminium-holz-fenster.html

    Althought they barely pass the 'need-to-learn-a-new-European-language' test, they were tasty - and I assume pricey (I will ask them for a price none the less)

    J
    • CommentAuthorGowzer
    • CommentTimeOct 30th 2008
     
    Sorry but I am new to this forum

    Has anyone heard of a company based in Perth, Scotland that can supply Passive house rated windows. I believe they can import them from Austria according to the website???
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeOct 3rd 2010 edited
     
    As James asked two years ago: Any 1st hand experience of Munster Joinery?

    I've had a decent quote from them for EcoClad aluminium-clad windows (Uw=1.6W/m2K) and would consider upgrading to EcoTherm.

    Anyone able to comment on workmanship, timber quality etc?

    I am also looking at Olsen (price OK but long lead time) and aluminiumtradeframes.com who are a bit pricier.

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