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    Wanted
    Builder to oversee the renovation of a change of use project in Todmorden, w Yorkshire. Project has been started but is beginning to drift due to inexperience. Project is an 1896 mill/warehouse building.

    We have planning permission, architects plans up to building regs and quotes from some contractors for parts of the work. We would like to work with someone who can oversee the next stage which involves some building work and several different contractors or trades. We would like to be involved but feel we do not have enough time or experience to do this efficiently.

    Start soon preferred. Local preferred.
    Call 07944 619632
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    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2015 edited
     
    Definitely echo the local sentiments. I currently live just 3 miles from my project but work and family mean I can't go every day. It's amazing how much time is required to manage a build, catch mistakes as soon as possible to minimise their effect and coordinate trades

    By and large, projects do slip so try not to worry about it too much. Has your architect not offered to oversee and project manage? Theyre often one of the better people to do so because they have the detail in their head.. Better he receive any "it cannot physically be built like that" arguments direct from the builder

    For my industrial conversion, I'm still managing and building away myself, and I've accepted that one man working two days a week isn't going to get a 250sqm house built in a year so I'm just letting it take as long as it takes. So many others have said why not just throw more money at it, get some trades in and smash the thing out in 6 months but I'd then spend all my free time fixing their mistakes (if I can find them) and I'd be paying through the nose for it. The other party to our "pair of semis" conversion has grown tired of building it himself and is throwing money at it. It turns out plumbers and elections don't really care about air tightness membranes and detailing, ventilation guys don't even bother to turn up and the heating guys wanted to do it their way rather than the way he wanted.. It's not all been bad though. If you want a list of suppliers at I'd wholeheartedly recommend let me know.

    There was a time that I felt quite under pressure to complete by a certain date, thinking it was really important to my other half that we move out of my inlaws house and into our own. Every family get together sees the extended family asking "have you not finished that bloody house yet?" and there's another interested third party pushing to have it finished by a certain time too. Post a frank conversation with the only people who really matter, turns out my other half is reasonably happy with the living situation because of all the help grandma gives with the baby so I changed perspective. Putting the dream (having a house of our own) on hold til whenever the building is done does at least mean that things are done exactly how I want with few mistakes. I accept everyone's appetite for these things is different and external factors affecting decisions are massively variable, but do have a think on whether the "important" thing that is influencing your decision now is a) actually important and b) so inviolable that it constricts you to just one course of action.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2015
     
    It is odd isn't it.
    I used to be a production manager but now work in catering.
    I do this as it is less stressful and, down here in Cornwall, a better paid and more reliable job.
    Some days I wish I was doing something more interesting, building houses would interesting. Trouble is I don't have the specific knowledge and dislike having to put up with stubborn trades people who only know one way to do things, generally the wrong way. Then, if they have to do anything slightly different they constantly turn to the 'supervisor' for a solution.
    The problem with building is that it seems that just about everything comes as a 'surprise' to everyone. I am not sure why this is.

    When I was lecturing, we had two things to work to. A Scheme of Work, that covered the subject from start to finish and the Lesson Plan, that covered either individual topics or a fixed time slot. If I managed to get though everything on the lesson plan in half the time, that was as much of a problem as going over time. What do you do with that time. I used to get the students to ask questions about individual problems, related to the topic or not.
    Does a site foreman do this, I doubt it.

    So good luck in finding someone. What is the going rate, £200/day?
    • CommentAuthorTriassic
    • CommentTimeDec 4th 2015 edited
     
    Up in the Northern Poor House (note the new name, given to us by Labour in the recent by election) you can get someone good for £140 a day.
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      CommentAuthorSteamyTea
    • CommentTimeDec 5th 2015
     
    As a foreman or as a builder?
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    I think you might (would) struggle to get someone really good, both as a builder and as a project manager, for £140 a day. It depends what the 'overseer' role involves. Could stretch beyond on-site management to more involvement with suppliers, finances etc.
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    I think you're right Nick.
    The cost of project management could be seen separately from the building work. As it's the experience, skills of thinking problems through and coordinating other trades that would add value.
    Knowing what order to act and what the consequences of any work might be... Most builders knock off and only start thinking again when they get to the job. They see no need to worry about how it will come together.

    Thanks for sharing your comments everyone.
    Still looking.
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    • CommentAuthorcjard
    • CommentTimeDec 10th 2015
     
    True true that most trades act only in isolation. While you're casting around you'll be needing to carry on with the PM yourself. Don't be afraid to ask for help - it sounds like you're in the position I was 6 months ago (and I'm still PMing/building mine, and going greyer by the day but getting a reasonable handle on it even if the lads on site get frustrated at how much I step in and take over/shake their head at how much I want doing "my way" ;) )

    Others here (and similar forums) will also be in similar boats, at various stages across the sea
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