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    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2010
     
    Woodyoulike says engineered wood flooring can be used 'even in bathrooms' http://www.woodyoulike.co.uk/aboutrangesduo.html

    Anyone actually tried it?
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2010
     
    I'd say it depends on the engineered wood, the finish and who uses the bathroom. We have oak finished with osmo hard wax oil in a WC. We have noticed the finish is affected slightly in areas that regularly get wet and are left wet. For example where chinaware or skirting sits on the floor and traps water underneath.

    We have kids and our master bathroom floor (tiled) is soaked virtually every night. I wouldn't recommend a wood floor in that situation. However we actually mop our wood floors (eg dinining room and hall) with a damp mop every few months and they have been fine, probably because they dry quickly.

    I suspect some other finishes might be totally unaffected but Hardwax oil does look good and seems easier to repair/recoat when it wears (compared to say polyeurathane that may stand water better?).
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2010
     
    Some clients of mine recently fitted bamboo engineered flooring in an en-suite and that seems to be standing up OK. I think it all depends on exactly what type of bathroom as CW suggests. If the place gets a lot of family use, especially showers, then choose something else. If it's just two people in a lesser used place then maybe OK but great attention needs paying to the installation techniques and exactly what type of engineered wood, there are hundreds of them.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2010
     
    I renovated our bathroom recently and used 'solid engineered bamboo' from one of the sheds. It comes with a 25 year guarantee and explicitly says it can be used in bathrooms. It's floated on a foam underlay over the original floorboards. All the planks are glued together as per the instructions.

    I also made the countertop that covers the cistern and into which the basin is inset from the same material. But I gave that a few coats of varnish as well just to be sure.

    It all seems to be holding up well so far. We're fairly light and 'respectful' users.

    As far as I remember all the types of solid and engineered wood I looked at said not to use in bathrooms.
    • CommentAuthorAds
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2010
     
    But how green is engineered wood?
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeNov 12th 2010
     
    Greener than the solid Ads, if the solid needs replacing more frequently due to movement that allows water ingress.
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2010
     
    So that is two positive experiences, both with bamboo.

    Since bamboo is a highly porous material, would I be right in thinking that engineered bamboo is impregnated with resin? That would make it a more water-resistant but possibly less 'natural' material than engineered oak, which as I understand it is basically 6mm solid oak glued to 14mm plywood.
    • CommentAuthorowlman
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2010
     
    I wasn't aware that bamboo is any more porous than any other untreated wood, ( or more correctly grass). It is certainly harder than many woods and I would have thought therefore it was less porous than wood. It's "green" credentials are considered excellent. Whatever you use however, it will need treating. Some engineered bamboo I've seen is a rich dark colour so perhaps it has undergone some sort of impregnation. There are many engineered variants some as you suggest are on multi-ply some are just a simple 3 ply. Personally I'd tend towards one on a birch ply backing, greener again than the tropical plys.
    • CommentAuthorOtterbank
    • CommentTimeNov 13th 2010
     
    We had re claimed pitch pine in a shower room that was still going strong after 12 years, with at least one shower a day as the norm.It was coated with danish oil and just touched up now and again.The floors in the new build bathrooms are solid pine which we coated in oil and I don't see it being a problem in the future, just make sure there are good expansion joints round the perimeter.
    • CommentAuthorrhamdu
    • CommentTimeNov 14th 2010
     
    Bamboo is tough all right. I broke my best garden fork digging out bamboo roots. Bamboo is Asia's traditional scaffold tube, and bike frames have been made from it. It has the desirable combination of high strength and low density.

    It is the low density that suggests me that bamboo in its natural state (300-400kg/m3) will be more porous than oak (740-930kg/m3). (Figures from http://www.realoakfloors.co.uk/wood_density_chart.php and http://www.engineeringtoolbox.com/wood-density-d_40.html)

    But once the pores in both have been filled with a natural or synthetic water-repellent resin or wax, bamboo might well become the more water-resistant of the two materials.

    owlman, since you and djh have both had positive experiences with bamboo flooring, I suspect engineered bamboo flooring may indeed be less porous than oak, though in its raw state bamboo would appear to be the more porous material.
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeNov 15th 2010
     
    My boards look something like the "Solid wide board plain pressed" shown in the PDF linked from http://www.moso-bamboo.com/products/flooring-floorcovering/solid-wide-board or described here http://www.moso-bamboo.com/files/EN_MOSO%20The%20transformation%20of%20the%20bamboo%20stem.pdf

    I think the variable colours come from the heat treatment used to preserve/strengthen the bamboo.
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