Get with the programme gav, meeting was held with existing c&f customers and people in planning or passed planning. Sean Ganley told all C& F reps NOT to attend but a certain reseller turned up and told everyone NOT to rush and install C&F before October because the turbines are not ready. The reseller involved claims to have 20 turbines installed, 19 unhappy customers and 1 who doesn't know his turbine isnt working properly. I spoke to someone today in planning for a 50kW c&f and has actual noise data for it?? I told him they don't have one as it's back to the drawing board but he claims they built a prototype and got the noise from that. The same guy to.d me they are stopping install until problems are sorted so who knows. My advice is find a happy c&f customer before you buy !!