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    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2020 edited
     
    Interesting research report by UCL:

    "An audit of over 140 housing developments built across England since 2007, found that one in five of these developments should have been refused planning permission outright as their poor design was contrary to advice given in the National Planning Policy Framework. A further 54% should not have been granted permission without significant improvements to their design."

    https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/2020/jan/new-housing-design-england-overwhelmingly-mediocre-or-poor
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2020
     
    I haven't read the design analysis yet, so I don't know what they considered nor how well they judged those factors nor how important I personally think those factors are. The latter is a perennial problem with value judgements such as 'good design'. What I'm more interested in is how many schemes thought about the solar availability of various plots (which I believe is in current guidelines), how many went above the minimum requirements for insulation and suchlike.
    • CommentAuthorgyrogear
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2020
     
    Posted By: djhhow many went above the minimum requirements for insulation and suchlike.


    +1

    gg
    • CommentAuthorvord
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2020 edited
     
    I would imagine most were built with the main consideration being to make them as fast and cheap to build as possible.

    It's the lack of maintanability that annoys me with modern houses. If you are going to be eco it's nice to have something that can be maintained past the 10 year guarantee. Some way to be able to fix the shoddy cheap work fron builders who don't understand that air gaps around insulation will stop it from working. Some way to fix the condensation problems that occur when that happens which cause the huge increase in asthma that have coincided with modern builds to building regs by muppets.

    I like old houses. My huge 16th century pile costs less to heat than the little new build next door with it soaking wet insulation pushing salts out through it's cement bound bricks.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2020 edited
     
    Interesting report,, what will change?

    Add to poor design poor construction, lack of attention to detail, unbelievably bad air tightness and we have the current state of housing 😪

    Virtually no one caring means that nothing is likely to change.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: djhhow many went above the minimum requirements for insulation

    They looked at Energy Performance Certificates (as designed, rather than as built, it seems):

    - 1% grade A
    - 72% grade B
    - 11% grade C
    - 17% grade D or worse

    So not good.

    And, in connection with other energy use, many also failed to be pedestrian & cycle friendly, were inconvenient for public transport, local facilities & amenities, and were overly car-dependent.
    • CommentAuthorJonti
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    The last 20 years of new build has been horrendous when looking at the bigger building firms. Many built in the wrong place out of town with no public transport considerations or infrastructure such as schools. Badly designed. Poor quality materials such as mortar that is the wrong mix and bricks which are not frost resistant. Shoddy workmanship with important things such as wall ties or insulation and even lintels missing.

    As for the 10 year guarantee it is great unless you need it when in most cases it is useless. I suspect that a lot of them you will not be able to get a mortgage due to these problems. Add to that the leaseholder scam and why would anyone with an ounce of sense buy a new build from a big builder.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    Are those EPC’s as built or as performing, how many of them have far higher heating bills than expected, thermal bypass and horrendous draughts coming out from sockets and behind architraves?
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    Posted By: tonyAre those EPC’s as built or as performing, how many of them have far higher heating bills than expected, thermal bypass and horrendous draughts coming out from sockets and behind architraves?

    They only looked at EPCs as-designed, so in practice many / most homes will be worse, for those and other well-recognised reasons.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    Yes, thx
  1.  
    It seems to me that there are several problems. The planning system is broken and not fit for purpose, there is insufficient inspection during the build process, there is insufficient inspection at end of build - are all houses tested for air tightness? and the guarantee system dos not work properly.

    I don't blame the builders - they are in it for the profit and their shareholders and they have majority hold on the marketplace. They get away with what ever they can just like anyone else where time is money and materials are part of the (variable) costs.

    IMO the problem lies with the lack of proper oversight.

    And as for the leasehold scandal, this is easily fixed - if only the authorities had the will (guts) to do it!
    • CommentAuthorJonti
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    Peter,

    you are spot on with the problem being a lack of oversight The laws and regulations are all there but those responsible for the oversight are absent.

    I disagree about the leasehold situation being easy to solve as it would require the removal of the ownership from the current owners and this been given to the house owners.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    Not all houses are tested for air tightness and our so called robust details can give acceptable air tightness test results when the house is actually a colander and the occupants are actually living in a plasterboard tent!

    The 10 year guarantee is for structure and even then owners have to battle to get redress.
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    Posted By: JontiI disagree about the leasehold situation being easy to solve as it would require the removal of the ownership from the current owners and this been given to the house owners.

    Whilst I am not an expert in this area - the leasehold reform act gives the leaseholder the right to purchase the freehold at a reasonable sum providing time criteria are followed, modifications to this act to include all properties and to limit the charge could surely be made. Another option, given that a lot of the new leases are punitive a few years down the line, so much so that the properties are difficult to sell, is for the building societies / banks refuse to give mortgages on leasehold properties.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeApr 26th 2020
     
    Can we move the leasehold discussion to leasehold please
    • CommentAuthorJonti
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2020
     
    Posted By: tonyNot all houses are tested for air tightness and our so called robust details can give acceptable air tightness test results when the house is actually a colander and the occupants are actually living in a plasterboard tent!

    The 10 year guarantee is for structure and even then owners have to battle to get redress.


    Almost none of the houses on big construction sites under go control and tests. Usually there is one house that is checked at the beginning and then the assumption that all the rest will be built to the same standard.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2020
     
    I know and that is insane. When testing came in BRE build an exemplar house on their site and couldn’t get a test on it, I think it passed after two weeks of rectification
    • CommentAuthorSimon Still
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: djh
    - 1% grade A
    - 72% grade B
    - 11% grade C
    - 17% grade D or worse


    I know EPCs are junk - band B seems to cover everything from 'probably passive house' to 'just about meets building regs'. But I wouldn't have thought C and D would meet current regs?
  3.  
    Remember that EPCs actually are the *cost* of the energy used per m2, not the *amount used* or the *CO2*. Whereas building STDs/regs are about the amount used and CO2. So if the house has expensive electric heating it will have a poorer EPC than if it used gas, while still meeting regs.

    I wonder if many of the band B's are actually band C or Ds which have been blinged up with some token solar panels?
    • CommentAuthorbhommels
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: Simon Still
    Posted By: djh
    - 1% grade A
    - 72% grade B
    - 11% grade C
    - 17% grade D or worse


    I know EPCs are junk - band B seems to cover everything from 'probably passive house' to 'just about meets building regs'. But I wouldn't have thought C and D would meet current regs?


    It is worse than that. I tried to translate the hopelessly inaccurate EPC to kWh/m2 per annum figures, and roughly arrived at the following picture. Current BR will put you in band B - but only just, and only assuming your airtightness is just as good as the property on which the blower door test was done. Which is hardly ever the case if your house is one of many of the same type.
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    Posted By: bhommelsI tried to translate the hopelessly inaccurate EPC to kWh/m2 per annum figures, and roughly arrived at the following picture. Current BR will put you in band B - but only just, and only assuming your airtightness is just as good as the property on which the blower door test was done. Which is hardly ever the case if your house is one of many of the same type.


    Just looking at our EPC - we got an 86point B and an estimate of 62kWh/m2.

    Using the EPC lighting estimate for the electricity kWh and our actual gas usage we're only on 47kWh/m2 and heat the house continually and both work mostly from home.
    • CommentAuthorMike1
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2020 edited
     
    Posted By: Peter_in_HungaryIt seems to me that there are several problems.

    The report points to several issues (generally, not specifically in relation to energy):

    - poorly designed schemes are almost ten times more likely to be built in the least affluent areas than in affluent areas. Conversely, well designed schemes are four times more likely to be built in affluent areas than in the least affluent ones. Very good schemes in poor areas are generally lead by local authorities or in public / private partnerships. [Builders building to match local affordability]

    - a descending correlation is very obvious between house price and urban design quality [due to the %ages builders use to determine their spending, if the development value goes up, the funding available both to design (professional fees) and to deliver enhanced design outcomes (the external costs) rises]

    - urban, higher density and brownfield schemes generally scored better [because the greater complexity of these sites meant that developers had to employ architects and urban designers in these situations?]

    - Schemes that benefited from the use of site-specific design codes were almost five times more likely to appear in the ‘good’ or ‘very good’ categories than in the ‘poor’ or ‘very poor’ ones, whilst schemes that benefited from the advice of a design review panel were approaching four times more likely. [Local Authorities taking a greater interest in what gets built]

    Read the report for much more detail.
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