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Energy Assessment: BRE report on Energy efficiency &...

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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2010
     
    The recent BRE report on energy efficiency in new and existing buildings (comparative costs and CO2 savings)

    Is very confusing!!!

    Energy saving is the goal and economics enter into this but carbon savings confuse the issues alarmingly

    It is a great report but like wading through treacle to understand.

    Some good conclusions but will they be lost in the melee of saps, csh, passivehaus, bream etc etc

    anyone understood it?
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2010
     
    I see BRE start with their usual approach to pricing:

    Energy efficiency in new and existing buildings: Comparative costs and CO2 savings
    F MacKenzie, C Pout, L Shorrock, A Matthews and J Henderson (2010) 325543 £30.00

    I think it'll be a while before I read that report.

    But then they add a new twist:

    BRE Electronic Publications Energy efficiency in new and existing buildings: Comparative costs and CO2 savings (Downloadable version)
    F MacKenzie, C Pout, L Shorrock, A Matthews and J Henderson (2010) 325546 £35.25

    A PDF that costs more than paper! Perhaps it's because the PDF doesn't sequester any carbon? :devil:
    • CommentAuthorbella
    • CommentTimeSep 23rd 2010
     
    A couple of years back, rather shocked at the price of a BRE publication I wanted to read, I contacted them to ask if I could use their library to view ones I wanted before purchase. The reply was that their libary was not open to the public, they had no subscription facility for the public nor for viewing publications prior to purchase, and could not imagine why they should. So much for this "public body".
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2010 edited
     
    Posted By: bellaA couple of years back, rather shocked at the price of a BRE publication I wanted to read, I contacted them to ask if I could use their library to view ones I wanted before purchase. The reply was that their libary was not open to the public, they had no subscription facility for the public nor for viewing publications prior to purchase, and could not imagine why they should. So much for this "public body".

    To be fair though, you can presumably view prior to purchase in any bookshop that sells them, just as with every other publisher. And the public library is the place provided for the public to borrow books. You can even look inside some BRE publications on amazon.

    The pricing is annoying but I believe they don't directly receive public funding so they need to generate income. There's a long tradition in this country of making us pay even for things that were publically funded, but I think the system used in America is better where many publically-funded results are public.
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2010
     
    The Americans used to have the attitude that anything developed for the military is funded by the public and should therefore be available free to the public when the military have finished with it - in other words, when it becomes declassified. Don't know whether they still practice that, the last time I downloaded any software from such a source was about eight years ago, and that was a fabulous suite of business analysis software that would have cost thousands here. A sensible idea, but such a pity that it's not a case of the "Where America leads, we follow" principle that seems to apply to all the wrong things!
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      CommentAuthorDamonHD
    • CommentTimeSep 24th 2010
     
    Basically all the works of NASA and other such federal agencies automatically end up in the public domain as I understand it, having already been paid for by (the US public) once.

    Rgds

    Damon
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2010
     
    BRE is a registered charity.
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeSep 25th 2010
     
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      CommentAuthordjh
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2010
     
    But most charities aim to benefit the public good.

    Whereas BRE just seem to add to the problems - iffy green guide, dodgy energy ratings and dubious extra 'sustainable' brownie points, and increasingly odd building regs.

    Though it has to be said that the government as customer and paymaster is at least as culpable, IMHO.
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      CommentAuthorted
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2010
     
    Yes, I pointed it out merely to highlight how odd it is. The main charitable work that the BRE do, AFAICS, is to fund a couple of PhD's in building tech every year. Not really enough to justify the charitable status on what is a 'corporation' that has staff costs approaching £30m a year.
    • CommentAuthorJoiner
    • CommentTimeSep 27th 2010
     
    Gosh Ted. What are you implying!! Heaven forfend.

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