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    • CommentAuthorMatt
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
     
    Our new (rented) house has seemingly dozens of recessed halogen spotlights - I presume mains voltage. They are in the kitchen, lounge, dining room, bathroom, shower room and hallways....only the bedrooms have 'normal' fittings.

    I know you can now get LED, fluorescent and HID technology. As with everyone, important that light quality is good, and the LED's we have in the kitchen here are pretty poor, but were bought a good few years ago, and technology moves on.

    I gave half a cupboard of 'collected from goody bags at eco events'' standard bayonet ones away at Christmas to neighbours....Anyone recommend good spotlight replacements, and a source of them at a reasonable price....
    • CommentAuthorJulian
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
     
    Hi Matt
    When you say "recessed halogen spotlights" do you mean downlighters? I.e. a recessed light fitting - or are they something else. Do you want to swap the lamps for a lower energy alternative or replace the fitting with something else? Are the lamps themselves GU10 (240v with a bayonet-type fitting action) or MR16 (low voltage but not low energy with two tiny pins on the lamp that fit to a plug in the fitting)?
    • CommentAuthorMatt
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
     
    They are GU10 (assumed, I have only had a 15minute look around the place....)
    I don't want to replace the fitting, its a brand new house and rented.
    Looking for suggestions of good bulbs/types, as I say our old MR16 LED lights are rubbish.
    • CommentAuthortrule
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
     
    Because its a rental property two ideas come to mind; first remove any of the lights that don't produce light you think you need; secondly buy some room lamps that take CFL globes and use that instead (you can take the lamps with you when you move house).
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeApr 25th 2009
     
    Try replacing 50W halogens with 40W IRC halogen. Only a 20% saving but virtually identical performance in all respects. Going one better would be to use CFL GU10's but I find them very slow to wam up. Otherwise ok. One option is to use a mixture of halogen and CFL (eg halogen over work tops with the rest CFL).

    A 50W halogen produces about 900 Lumens of light and the best LEDs I've heard about produce around 500-600 Lumens. They may claim to be as bright as a 50W halogen but in reality they are more like a 35W halogen. You also have to replace the fitting.

    ..but if anyone knows otherwise do let us know. Easy to get out of date.
  1.  
    http://www.tlc-direct.co.uk/Main_Index/Lighting_Menu_Index/Lamps_and_Tubes_Index/GUCFL_Lamp/index.html
    these may fit, there a bit long for most fire rated fitiings , use them alot with plenty of happy customers (some unhappy)

    http://www.screwfix.com/prods/56569/Lighting-Lamps/Lamps/240V-Halogen-Lamps/Halolite-GU10-Low-Energy-Mains-Voltage-Halogen-7W-Lamp
    these are slighty shorter , though were also a little cold/blue

    http://www.smaclite.co.uk/productinfo.asp?id=195

    probably wont fit , and exspensive , but good light quality

    secondly buy some room lamps (car boot sale )that take CFL globes/lamps
    trule probably got the best idea,
    • CommentAuthorwookey
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    Latest LEDs are now puting out 1100 lumens: http://www.leds.de/p439/High_power_LEDs/Osram_Ostar_LEDs/Osram_Ostar_LE_UW_E3B_1120lm.html

    However I haven't seen any of those in GU10 fittings yet (and if they were they'd almost cetainly overheat). CFL replacements will be _much_ cheaper than LEDs. LED replacements will be more effcient if you manage to buy bulbs containing latest-generation LEDs, but they tend not to tell you so it's hard to know.

    Look for 3x3W Cree or luxeon rebel LEDs or 1 Cree MC-E to get something over 600 lumens. something like this: http://www.leds.de/p250/LED_spots/HighPower_4-Watt_XR-E_LED_Spot_GU10_warm-white_230V.html (which I think will be about 360 lumens). Don;t forget that beam angles vary and matter enormously.

    900 lumens from a 50W halogen seems too high to me. I've not heard of halogen over 15 lumens/Watt = 750 lumens. Crappy ones can be 5 L/W=250 lumens. An osram datasheet: http://catalog.myosram.com/zb2b/b2b/start.do?browsername=mozilla%2F5.0%2520%2528x11%253B%2520u%253B%2520linux%2520x86_64%253B%2520en%253B%2520rv%253A1.9.0.7%2529%2520gecko%2F20080528%2520epiphany%2F2.22&browsermajor=5&browserminor=5
    states 900cd and 40 degrees beam angle, which is approximately 340 lumens. (7 l/W)

    Sorry if that's just confused, rather than illuminated :-)
    • CommentAuthorCWatters
    • CommentTimeApr 27th 2009
     
    Seems I'm out of date..
    1000 lumen LED downlights.. About £60 though..
    http://www.nzlightingltd.co.nz/shop/LED+Lights++Lighting/LED+Downlight+15+watt.html
  2.  
    Thanks a bunch - briefly and exactly what I also needed!

    May I recomend that this is moved to the essential for newbies section. I think most of the info is here already (ish) but nothing as sucinct and with so many links; hence, essential/basics....any seconder to my motion?
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