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    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2013
     
    Over the years I have occasionally done suspended rc slabs for extensions where the engineer and/or building inspector have asked for pocketing in of the slab into the existing building.

    A friend of mine caught the idea and now runs his own business. He always pockets in and for tiled floors crossing between old and new finds that sitting the slab on the old wall foundations where the break through is don is the only way to avoid getting cracked tiles.

    Recently a LA inspector has refused to accept this method saying that they want to allow movement of the non structural floor of the new extension and the original building.

    comments please
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    If non structural , so not rc with needles on to the old sleeper wall , then perhaps inspector wants to allow for a small amount of settlement for the new ground bearing slab ?
    Would the pockets/needles really help greatly with old/new threshold movement ?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 7th 2013
     
    He won't allow it to sit on existing house wall and the slab would definitely settle a tad.

    If slab runs onto wall, a 9" solid wall then no movement, effectively he is wanting to do a rc ground bearing suspended slab.
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    If you accept it'll settle, then at best you'll get a tilted slab, at worst an irregular ramp from where it chooses to crack - how will floor tiles like that? Could be more at one end than the other, so the ramp will be twisted too. Sounds like he's right, unless designed as suspended.
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    pocketed in to new and old all round and all door openings, now it only moves if foundations move
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    So why do you say
    Posted By: tonyslab would definitely settle a tad
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    if it wasn't pocketed in
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    So, a ground-bearing slab but pocketed in all round, so in a short while it will be barely ground-bearing, but spanning from discontinuous stress-risers. Without reinforcement it will surely crack unpredictably?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    they do put an A142 grid in, probably the middle of the oversite will not go down at all (no blinding) possible tiny deflection of slab possibly none
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      CommentAuthorfostertom
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    If there's mesh already in there why not bump it up a bit till it becomes a full spanning slab, albeit cast on ground as 'lost' shuttering?
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 8th 2013
     
    Good idea, I think they might do that but then the BI will want calcs:(
    • CommentAuthortony
    • CommentTimeAug 27th 2013
     
    Ultimately the BI bottled out and sent another inspector round to OK it!
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