Ermm - that was from the fossil gas boilers industry association, moaning about their market drying up.

If you want a bargain basement heat pump, they are readily available on eBay, but don't expect MCS approval.

<blockquote><cite>Posted By: WillInAberdeen</cite>Ermm - that was from the fossil gas boilers industry association, moaning about their market drying up.

If you want a bargain basement heat pump, they are readily available on eBay, but don't expect MCS approval.</blockquote>

Plenty of biomass boilers with MCS approval were installed in the domestic market, i’d take a punt and say that many of those purchasers have been less than impressed and will be very reluctant to act as early adopters for other technologies, until the memories fade.

In summary then we could have poor quality heat pumps, ( because they're cheap ); perhaps fitted by inexperienced or bad plumbers, ( because they're allowed to with monobloc A2W ); into homes ill suited for this type of technology, ​( because it's flavour of the decade ).
It looks like it may be a clusterf... waiting to happen. Possibly followed by lots of bad press about how "poor" and inadequate and expensive to run, the HP systems are.
Wasn't there something similar concerning electric underfloor heating in uninsulated tower blocks years ago.

Posted By: WillInAberdeenSome of the gas boiler brands are piling into selling heat pumps (eg Vailant).

What with heat pumps selling for 3x what gas boilers do, and with their brand recognition, and captive network of installers, and all the green kudos, you'd have thought they will make a packet out of it. Beats me why some are dragging their feet? They can't seriously expect to still be selling fossil burners 20 years from now.

Maybe it's like the car market's attitude was to EVs before Tesla came along and frightened the incumbents.

3 times? And the rest.....! I had a quote for a Vaillant ASHP system (installed) at £12.5K of which the ASHP cost was approx £7500. 25kW gas boilers are around the £1K to £1.5K mark.

I'm sure that will be the solution in some properties, although not anytime soon enough, but I think the running cost is going to put a lot of people off.

AFAICS, the low running cost is the main reason people use gas today, rather than electric heating.

But if in future you have to pay someone to turn 1kWh of electricity into hydrogen that heats your house by 0.6kWh, it's got to be cheaper to use that electricity directly for resistance heating, both capital and running costs.

Heat pumps have much greater capital costs, but if that 1kWh of electricity gives 3 or 4kWh heat then the running costs might make it worthwhile in some properties, though not in all.

Gas boiler manufacturers must be well aware of this, and must be thinking about their future markets. So it's strange that some of them are moving into selling heatpumps and others are still trying to hold back the tide.